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From: michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions
Subject: Re: Argh! Where is NetBSD-1.0BETA? I've looked everywhere!
Date: 06 Oct 1994 01:36:30 GMT
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In-reply-to: fox@cs.mcgill.ca's message of 30 Sep 1994 17:49:24 GMT

In article <36hj34$rqq@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> fox@cs.mcgill.ca (Colin BRADLEY) writes:

	   Alright. Where is it? Please. I looked at iastate, 
	   berkeley, and some machine in France.
	   All I see are the 'current' dists. Does current == 1.0beta 
	   at this point?

Yes, at this point current is 1.0_Beta.  You can get it at
ftp.iastate.edu, among the other sites listed.

	   And, oh - do I use the same upgrade instructions that
	   apply to the 0.8-0.9 upgrade? they seem to be 
	   everywhere as well.

No, because 1.0_Beta isn't an official release, so there are no
official installation disks or anything.

There is a person who has made an UNOFFICIAL installation set for
NetBSD-1.0_Beta.  Here is a snip from his letter:

>     Date:    Wed, 28 Sep 94 00:26:58 -0400
>     From:    Brian Moore <ziff@eecs.umich.edu>
>     To:      current-users@NetBSD.ORG
>     Subject: Re: I don't want to wait!
>
> Well, after a few people asked me how I installed NetBSD 1.0_BETA on my i386
> machine, I decided to put the install docs, floppies and tar files up on
> ftp.eecs.umich.edu.  They can be found in /BSD/NetBSD/misc/1.0-Beta.
  [...]

Remember, this installation set is TOTALLY UNOFFICIAL, and if it
breaks on you, or something screws up, or you just can't figure it
out, nobody is going to help you -- you're completely on your own.  If
these terms are unacceptable to you, wait until the official 1.0
release comes out.  But if you want to try these out, I strongly
suggest that you have some familiarity with previous version of
NetBSD, or decent knowledge of unix, before getting started.  I've
heard of several people successfully getting up to 1.0_Beta
(NetBSD-current, actually) with this set, but they all knew, to a
certain extent, what they were doing.

	   BTW is the com driver fixed in 1.0? My slip line 
	   hangs now and then, I seem to remember people working
	   on this, but haven't seen anything on the mailing 	
	   lists...

The com driver has been working quite excellent for quite some time.
Performance is quite good, and it doesn't flake out.  The only
weirdness with it is that NetBSD doesn't have calling units at this
time, so you have to hold the port open somehow if your device doesn't
do so for you.  One way to do this is to put ``softcar'' for that line
in your /etc/ttys file (see ``man ttys'').  But, all in all,
I have no complaints with performance or stability.

           What about the wd.c? Any fix besides the 
	   original timeout patch?

This has been fixed for quite some time, also.  Charles did some very
extensive research into the actual real-world behavior of IDE
interfaces, and fixed a great many things.  I haven't heard of any IDE
problems for a very long time.

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   Michael L. VanLoon     michaelv@HeadCandy.com     michaelv@iastate.edu
  Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x for PC/Mac/Amiga/etc.
     Working NetBSD ports: 386+PC, Mac, Amiga, HP300, Sun3, Sun4c, PC532
               In progress: DEC pmax (MIPS R2k/3k), VAX, Sun4m
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