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From: hart@apanix.apana.org.au (Leigh Hart)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: How UTTERLY Amazing! (Was Re: FreeBSD vs NetBSD)
Date: 30 Sep 94 21:14:17 GMT
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jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) writes:

>	OK... guys.. please no flames.

*cough* too late, didn't notice this bit until it was too late :-)

>Alok K. Dhir (adhir@bigdipper.umd.edu) wrote:
>: I hate to ask this question, but I really need to make a decision on a Free
>: unix soon.  I am currently running FreeBSD 1.1.5.1, and am happy overall.

>: I understand that NetBSD 1.0 will soon be released.  I am curious as to 
>: the advantages of one over the other.  Do they match one another feature
>: for feature?  What is NetBSD based on, BSD 4.3 or 4.4/lite?
>:
>	386bsd Release 1.0 is report to be ready soon.
>	To be quite clear on this, the delay is now in
>	it's fourth month. 
>	
>	When will 386bsd R1.0 be ready?

>	That's almost an oxymoron question.
>	You'll know when I know... that's the best I can say 
>	for now.

Translation (tabs included for maximum value!):

	I haven't a clue.  Let me ignore your question and
	use your post as an exchose to dribble a bit more
	about Vapour Ware.

>: I have found compiling things for FreeBSD is sometimes a bit of a chore 
>: (as compared to Linux and NeXTStep, which I also run), especially
>: since there is usually not a default config for it (for example, with
>: gcc, pine, and misc others).  Is netbsd in the same boat?
>:
>	Since Bill Jolitz is the original author of 386bsd
>	and the basis for FreeBSD and NetBSD,  it is safe
>	to assume that porting should be an easy task.

My god this man is thick.

>: The machines are ASUS 486/66 motherboards with ATI Graphics Ultra Pro PCI
>: 2mb graphics boards and onboard PCI SCSI.  I have purchased SMC Ultra 16T
>: NICs for use with these machines.  As far as I know, FreeBSD supports
>: this configuration (has NCR PCI drivers, and supports the BB2016 multi-
>: port serial card).  Does NetBSD have support for my hardware configuration
>: as well (if it doesn't, my decision is easy ;-).
>:
>	On your list of hardware I can say that 386bsd does *NOT*
>	support that architecture at this time.

Jesus, when someone asks you if a pork chop is better than a leg of
lamb, do you try to sell them a copy of the nonexistant 386bsd CDROM
instead of answering the question?  I can just imagine the queue at
Burger King:

Attendant:	Would you like fries or wedges with your burger, sir?
Customer:	Hmmm, which is better?
Jesus:		HEY! YOU AT THE START OF THE QUEUE! ASK IF THEY HAVE
		386BSD, THEY PROBABLY DON'T, AND I HAVN'T TRIED IT,
		BUT I KNOW IT JUST _HAS_ TO BE BETTER!

>: FreeBSD 2.0 is just around the corner as well (perhaps not as close as
>: NetBSD), but I need things up and running in the next month or so.  Are
>: there any compelling reasons to wait to FreeBSD 2.0 instead of using NetBSD
>: 1.0 when its released?
>:
>	There are as many reasons to wait for 386bsd R1.0 as
>	any of the others.

Yea, right.  I'll settle for the wedges, thanks.

>: Last question - where are the NetBSD mailing lists?
>:
>	Lists for 386bsd are maintained, at this time, 
>	by the Jolitzs'

God you must frustrate the hell out your local psychology department.

>/386BSD/device-drivers /fd /qic /clock /documentation

You might as well add /fries /with /that /sir?

Cheers

Leigh
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