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From: michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD versus Linux
Date: 11 Aug 94 20:38:05 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
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In <jmonroyCuDCnu.59v@netcom.com> jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) writes:

>Michael L. VanLoon (michaelv@iastate.edu) wrote:

>: In <jmonroyCuC9ut.1n8@netcom.com> jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) writes:

>: >Gary Udstrand (gbu@uhc.com) wrote:

>: >:  I want to set up a sytem at home to run XFree and SLIP.  I will be using this 

>: >	my recommondation is that you might wait a few weeks.
>: >	386BSD release 1.0 is scheduled to mail.
>: >	What's in the package? 
>: >	I can't say, but I think the offering will be well recieved.

>: Oh gawd... someone asks whether he should prefer one of two well
>: debugged and established systems.  And Jesus' answer is: don't use one
>: of them, wait longer for something that we know nothing about!

>	as for the joke about "debugged and established",
>	check your quasi-relese numbers next time you have
>	a quip.

[michaelv@MindBender]~> cat /kern/version 
NetBSD 1.0_BETA (MINDBENDER) #145: Tue Aug  2 02:41:53 CDT 1994
    michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/MINDBENDER

So, what's your point?  I've had over 30-day uptimes on my machine,
and it hasn't crashed in *ages*, except for one recent period where an
mbuf bug was introduced, then quickly squashed (don't tell me Bill
never has bugs in his system -- of course, we'll never know because
only the angels and/or devils (take your pick) ever see his
pre-release code).

What's more, the NetBSD machine in our office that we use as our
SLIP/PPP server/router, had an uptime of 73 days, until we voluntarily
shut it down to install another serial card in it.  Yes, that's
SEVENTY-THREE DAYS, routing SLIP and PPP connections the entire time.
What's this you talk about mythical debugged and reliable status?
Seems quite real to me.

Remember, the original poster *did* specifically ask about using SLIP.
And your answer was to tell him he should use some system that nobody
knows if it will even do slip reliably!  Talk about quasi-releases...

Jesus, you have a real interesting skew on reality.  The only
quasi-anything here is this quasi-release of 386BSD-1.0, which, even
after having been advertised in a national publication for months,
nobody has yet actually seen.


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 Michael L. VanLoon                 Iowa State University Computation Center
    michaelv@iastate.edu                    Project Vincent Systems Staff
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