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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:3323 comp.os.linux.misc:22289 Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!news.hal.COM!olivea!decwrl!decwrl!netcomsv!netcomsv!calcite!vjs From: vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com (Vernon Schryver) Subject: Re: source of TCP/IP (was I hope this wont ignite a major flame ...) Message-ID: <CuuFH4.47A@calcite.rhyolite.com> Organization: Rhyolite Software Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 17:05:28 GMT References: <Cu0L6w.Ms1@calcite.rhyolite.com> <321ub2$k71@herald.indirect.com> <hbonneyCutCwG.L10@netcom.com> Lines: 32 In article <hbonneyCutCwG.L10@netcom.com> hbonney@netcom.com (Hugh Bonney) writes: >In article <321ub2$k71@herald.indirect.com> you wrote: >: > (forget who) >: >Wrong. People who write garbage code like that are amateurs who won't >: >get the job offers from outfits worth working for. >: Unfortunately, they do get job offers and cause the rest of us grief. >: Even more unfortunate is most managers don't know better and even prefer >: this kind of programming .... > Actually, today's interviwers heavily favor a hacker style. Because > of all the amazingly hyped resumes floating around, people are now > required to memorize every bit they ever worked with - they will be > asked about them in the effort to ferret out the fakes. If you are > a careful programmer and use reasonable coding standards, you are > at a disadvantage with respect to someone who defined nothing and > spent lots of time hunting up bits in memory. ... An interview is not a one sided exchange. While they are interviewing you, you must be evaluating them. If that's the best they can do to determine you're a flake, then be polite, but forget them as soon as you get your travel reimbursement. Just as there are plenty of idiotic, lazy wannabe programmers, there are plenty of bureaucratic, ignorant wannabe managers. Like flocks to like. There are more than enough outfits composed mostly of both, but with a few misplaced souls who didn't pay attention during the interview or otherwise ended up in the wrong place. Vernon Schryver vjs@rhyolite.com