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From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr)
Subject: Re: Call for 386BSD Rel.1.0 SIG (Special Interest Group)
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Re: Subject: Re: Call for 386BSD Rel.1.0 SIG (Special Interest Group)
 
>> Date: 19 Aug 1994 03:45:54 GMT
>>
>> In article <jmonroyCuFvqp.BKv@netcom.com>,
>> Jesus Monroy Jr <jmonroy@netcom.com> wrote:
>> > [Fine Monroy Purple Prose deleted]
>> >
>> >                Official - no less, this version promises more!
>>
>> And "promise" seems to remain the watchword.  When can you actually lay
>> your hands on a 386BSD 1.0 CD or fetch the bits from your favorite ftp
>> site?  Repeat those time-honored words after me, folks:  Real Soon Now!
>>
        I must say, that either I have change or perhaps this
        is an off-day for you because usually I get much snappier
        responses from you, Jordan.
 
>> >        "What", I can not say.   None the less, the i386 (and family)
>> >        are  quickly  becoming the de facto  standard  for personal
>> >        computer development.   This and the accomplishments of fast
>>
>> Fine, we even believe you (sort of).  But then the question still remains:
>>
>> "Why follow Bill?"
>>
            I don't believe that I've asked this of anyone, but
            perhaps in the interest of objectiveness, let's say
            I did ask that question: "Why follow Bill?".
 
 
>> The other *BSD's are delivering solutions NOW, have delivered solutions for
>> the last 18 months, during which time Bill had abandoned his users to an
>> uncertain fate, and show every sign of continuing to do so.
>>
            I will take your comments as the prevailing opinion
            of the *bsd development community on the "NET".
            However, other people do not feel the same, and
            this is my reminder to you that this is so.
 
 
>> Considering
>> that Bill's track record, not to put too fine a point on it, SUCKS, why
>> should we trust him?
>>
            I'd take a similar look at persons that are involved with
            the current development of *bsd (no pun intended), I might
            consider myself to be heading for economic suicide.
            None the less, I will consider your question: "why should
            we trust him?", as partially retorical.  Let's continue
            with the discussion.
 
>> Bill sort of reminds me of DEC.  An often brilliant company, one that brought
>> us many milestones in computing, but also a company that screwed its users
>> once too often with delayed promises and expensive switch-a-roos.
>>
            Sounds more like IBM that DEC to me... Let's continue.
 
>> Meanwhile,
>> its competition quietly went ahead and delivered good hardware in a TIMELY
>> fashion and they ate DEC's lunch.
>>
            In this case, let's consider "lunch" to be symbolic of
            a reward perhaps.   A reward that one might relish in a
            moment of great victory.  ..... continuing.
 
>> Might we learn something from this small parable?
>>
            Retorical, again I take it !?!
 
>> I have, but somehow, I do not think that Jesus has or will.
>>
            I learn and follow quit well.
 
>> He continues to follow his beloved guru no matter what
>> direction he might lead.
>>
            Well, this part is true... although I don't think
            I would use the word "guru" with Bill.... Czar might
            be more in line. (no pun intended)
 
>> I also went to the talk, and saw little or no clothes on the Emperor (well,
>> perhaps a modest loincloth).  More details on that little soire' later..
>>
            Now, which talk are we mentioning here,  August the 17th
            or some other date?
 
 
	And if you were at the meeting, where were you seated?
	Remember I video taped the event.

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Jesus Monroy Jr                                          jmonroy@netcom.com
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