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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!news.delphi.com!usenet From: John Dyson <dysonj@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0 Date: Wed, 3 Aug 94 13:10:13 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 39 Message-ID: <xG7TDZ9.dysonj@delphi.com> References: <jwshin.774923275@nitride.eecs.berkeley.edu> <1994Jul29.152905.8780@cm.cf.ac.uk> <CtupF7.M4@gnome.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1g.delphi.com X-To: Dr Chris Stenton <jacs@gnome.co.uk> Dr Chris Stenton <jacs@gnome.co.uk> writes: >I assume this is for Alpha? Otherwise its being rushed. Me I am VERY >happy with my rock solid 1.1.5.1 and am happy to wait however long it >takes for 2.0 to be as solid. We ARE feeling some pressure because of the announced plans for NetBSD V1.0 at the end of July or so (I guess soon.) However, I believe that the goal is aggressive for FreeBSD V2.0 (End of september) considering that it will have the merged VM buffer cache (my job), and lots of other goodies including the entire 4.4Lite tree ported over. We would have had a lot more done (and perhaps ready for release) had we not come out with the 1.1.5 stuff. However, we knew that 1.1.5 would be really good, and lots of work had been done since 1.1. For example, only a very small percentage of the VM work was in 1.1, but 1.1.5 has almost all of the improvements and should be extremely stable and robust. The biggest change from the 1.1.5 VM code to the V2.0 VM code (other than it being 4.4Lite based) is that there will be significant clean-ups and making sure that it is structure better. Alot of the bloat in the vnode_pager will be going away because the merged VM/buffer cache stuff and alot of the logic for direct VM I/O (1.1.5 does have direct VM I/O, which previous versions of *BSD DO NOT), is being moved into seperate files with *much* better organization. Other really good things will be happening in FreeBSD V2.0, but I agree with your concern. We will not release the code before its time. The development should be opening up soon, and the good old open FreeBSD development world will be back. The main reason for the closed FreeBSD V2.0 development (in my eyes), was simply we did not want people to mess up their file-systems. Too much of that and we loose the reputation that we have gained on 1.1.5. Note that even though I am a core team member of FreeBSD, I do not get into release mgmt stuff -- about the only stuff that I know much about is the kernel stuff... But these are my opinions, and your concerns about premature release of code are VALID and we are trying to keep up our reputation. John dyson@implode.root.com