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From: mellon@ncd.com (Ted Lemon)
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Subject: Re: Have $8000, what to buy?
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>Maybe a Personal DECstation, a.k.a "maxine".  Nice open bus, decent graphics,
>R3000 upgradeable to R4000, and fairly cheap.  I think it has ISDN on the
>motherboard, too, but I'm not sure.  It's got sound, too.  I'm not too fond of
>DEC these days but the machine itself isn't too shabby.

The R4000 upgrade isn't available yet, to the best of my knowledge.
I wouldn't count on being able to get it until it ships.   The
graphics are okay, but don't get the standard DEC monitor - it's an
utter piece of crap.   The good news is that I think it's VGA or SVGA
compatible (maybe some DEC person can verify this?), so you should be
able to get a good one that will work.

It does indeed have ISDN on the motherboard.   The sound capability is
part of the ISDN capability - you can't necessarily use both at the
same time.

I'm rather fond of the MAXine (also known as the DECstation 5000/25 or
/33).   However, I must say that it's probably not a good deal in the
$8k range - you'll have trouble configuring all the things you'd want,
getting a decent monitor and a big disk, and still being able to
afford the CD-ROM and so on.

Instead, I'd have to recommend that you use some sort of PC-clone
configuration and run BSDI's product on it.  I'm pretty sure that you
can get a really fast 486 box with enough memory and disk for on the
order of $5k to 6k, and you can get BSDI's UNIX offering for $1k,
including source.   This will probably give you performance at about
the level of an IPC, but with more peripherals.   BSDI can probably
recommend a configuration for you.

If you want to do the system part on the cheap, you can probably do
even better with Bill Jolitz's BSD386 release; the only problem is
that you'll have to hack to bring it up, and I don't know if they have
EISA support yet.

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