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From: peter@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Peter da Silva)
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Subject: Re: I hope this wont ignite a major flame war, but Ive got to know!
Date: 29 Jul 1994 21:37:47 -0500
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In article <CtMnq1.C8@rex.uokhsc.edu>,
Benjamin Z. Goldsteen <benjamin-goldsteen@uokhsc.edu> wrote:
>Unless I am mistaken, SVR4's networking consists of the Berkeley TCP/IP
>code with STREAMS on top (with sockets emulated on STREAMS).  There
>were a few other attempts at TCP/IP, but they weren't too successful...

>[I believe Peter de Silvia will back me up on this]

Whoever he is.   :->

I've used Mesa, Excelan, Lachman, and Micom Interlan. At least in that
samples space they're all short of ideal. Lachman is definitely based on
BSD. Excelan is supposed to be. Excelan did a great LAN Analyser (now
sold by Novell, who bought Excelan to get it), but their protocol stack
was really old. I don't know about Mesa, but their Xenix stack could
only support a handful of connections. Interlan went through a dozen
companies, don't know where they are now.

That's my total sample space. I could easily have missed some.

Anyway, overall I'm an agnostic on System V versus BSD. I've pissed off
enough people in the BSD camp for daring to suggest that there's good
stuff in System V. I think Linux is an incredibly neat hack, and it does
a lot of nifty things to coexist with DOS, but that's not what I really
want to do. I like BSD because it feels like real UNIX. Deep in its heart
it feels more like the System V I'm used to than SCO does, for example.
It feels more like OSF/1 than System V does. It works for me.

But for Ritchie's sake, it's not worth having a war over. It doesn't work
for some people. That's fine. ANYTHING to keep folks from falling into
the clutches of Microsoft.