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From: John Dyson <dysonj@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: 4.4-lite?
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 94 01:11:58 -0500
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Charles M. Hannum <mycroft@duality.gnu.ai.mit.edu> writes:
 
>It's a simple fact that I've personally inspected, when necessary
>fixed, and in several cases sped up and documented, about 95% of the
>i386-specific code in NetBSD since our last release (as well as
>importing and writing some new code, and working on the 4.4-Lite
>integration), and I'd venture that it's pretty solid.  I haven't seen
>anyone do that for FreeBSD.
 
Some of the work being done is avant-garde and does not lend itself to
partial or incremental commits.  Large sections of code are being changed
and or added.  However, I believe that the first public versions of FreeBSD
will have machine dependent sections with code that is slightly bettern
than V1.1.5.  Some major enhancements are already being worked on though
(both machine dependent and independent.)  FreeBSD V2.0 kernel already
has the entire set of FreeBSD VM enhancements for example (with some bug
fixes already.)  We are doing most of the new stuff on our local machines,
there is alot of new kernel code being written.  It does not make any
since at all to do partial commits with the complexity of changes being
made right now.
 
 
>Assuming we were both releasing virgin 4.4-Lite trees right now, I
>might even let you get away with that statement.  But already NetBSD
>has advanced beyond 4.4-Lite, in both stability, features, and
>architecture-independence, and where are you?
 
Sounds like a challenge -- :-).  We have made lots of progress but
in slightly different directions.  I can enumerate things that are missing
in each version of *BSD -- but what does that win us?  We can probably
make up bunches of dotted items.  The only reason that we do not have
a publically released V2.0 by now is that we decided to support our users
with one last release of V1.1.5.  One might debate the merits, etc -- but
that is what we chose to do.  FreeBSD will probably continue to make
decisions differently than NetBSD, but FreeBSD is not something that
should be dismissed.  There is alot to be learned from the FreeBSD work --
in fact more new stuff is forthcoming.