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From: mo@pineapple.apmaths.uwo.ca (Matthew Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: I hope this won't ignite a major flame war, but I've got to know!
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Date: 21 Jul 1994 15:44:16 GMT
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Terry Lambert (terry@cs.weber.edu) wrote:
: In article <1994Jul18.093302.19670@wmichgw> 31khoo@wmich.edu (Patrick Khoo) writes:
: ] Very simple Tim, Anyone and i mean Anyone can work on Linux development. The
: ] development is open and releases are fast (blazingly fast kernel releases!) As
: ] opposed to Free/NetBSD. As such, a hacker would prefer Linux, where he/she can
: ] hack and get updates fast.

: As an anti-spokesperson (meaning I speak for no one), here is my opinion:

: Actually, I think the initial impetus toward Linux and away from BSD was
: based on BSD's shaky legal status relative to the USL suit against BSDI
: and UCB.

: I have to say that NetBSD developement doesn't appear to be very open
: from the point of view of a netnews reader, anyway.  They rely heavily
: on mailing lists.  FreeBSD also relies on mailing lists, yet it seems
: to be more visible on netnews.

: I've noticed a "closing down" of the FreeBSD developement; I think I
: can count say 5 people working on the 4.4-Lite migration.  This is
: explainable in the time frame they have to work before the code must
: no longer be distributed.

: Hopefully the closed developement you cite is a temporary phenomenon
: based on the agreements with USL to cease use of the Net/2 code within
: a (getting shorter fast) time frame.  Both systems have releases based
: on 4.4 scheduled out at the end of July/start of August.

: I don't know what legal agreements or entities exist regarding deals
: with USL for the NetBSD distribution, but for the FreeBSD distribution,
: there is a commercial site sponsor, Walnut Creek CDROM, which has agreed
: with USL, even if the FreeBSD "team", which has no legal status as an
: entity which could enter into such an agreement.

: The upshot of all this is that the FreeBSD team has been extremely
: conservative in its mode to 4.4-Lite; specifically, they have taken
: a 4.4-Lite source tree and basically duplicated William Jolitz's
: initial effort in 386BSD 0.1 to provide newly coded replacements for
: any file which USL has deemed questionable.  The NetBSD effort has
: been a bit more avantgarde, porting the 4.4 code into their tree,
: with the confidence that they have rewritten sufficient code to
: render their tree legally safe anyway.

: The result in the FreeBSD camp is that FreeBSD has inherited the
: platform independant code of 4.4-Lite.  The result in the NetBSD
: camp is that they have incorparted 4.4 features into an already
: highly portable environment, alreading including new code for a lot
: of the suspect portions of Net/2 long before there was a problem
: in the legal sense (a cease-and-desist letter to at least 10 Net/2
: and Net/2 derived code sites I can think of off the top of my head).

: In any case, funneling changes you want incorporated into the main
: code branch of NetBSD or FreeBSD to people with commit authority on
: those branches is similar to what is required of Linux developers
: who want there code to be something other than a local phenomenon
: (I ought to know -- I am nearing 200M of "local phenomenon" on my own
: BSD work).  The difference is whether that authority rests in the

I would like to try FreeBSD out. But, people.. When I FTPed to 
ftp.cdrom.com and looked in /pub/FreeBSD .. I had NO way to really know 
what to look for. COuld SOMEONE tell me what to FTP and where?? I run 
linux right now.. It is easy to understand the FTP sites and I like the 
Yggdrasil CDROM version. 
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