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From: sef@kithrup.com (Sean Eric Fagan)
Subject: Re: 4.4-lite?
Organization: Kithrup Enterprises, Ltd.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 21:53:39 GMT
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In article <30em65$g17@autodesk.autodesk.com>,
I can teach you how to fish... <greywolf@autodesk.com> wrote:
>I find it kind of difficult to believe that FreeBSD started with 4.4-Lite,
>since the litigation was still going on when FreeBSD was kicking off their
>first implementation; by the time the litigation finished, the 4.4-Lite
>distribution wasn't even completely available yet (unless there were
>some unnameable sources who were providing the code on the side).

The FreeBSD team has, for their 2.0 release, started from scratch with a
4.4-lite tape.  Unlike NetBSD, which managed to get a copy of 4.4-lite a
fair bit ago, and has been integrating it a bit at a time.  (Sort of the
difference between jumping into the deep end of a shark infested pool, and
slowly wading into the shark-infested section :)).

>I seriously don't see the extrication of a well-organised machine-
>independent OS rising out of FreeBSD without a considerable amount of
>effort spent on re-organizing the source tree.

That depends.  For the CSRG folks, the organisation already worked.  Why
change it?  (BSD has been a single-source, multi-platform OS for quite a
while, despite Sun's claims to the contrary :).)

>I hadn't seen any arch-specific directories last I looked at FreeBSD anyway
>which was, admittedly, quite some time ago.

They are there in the 4.4-lite distribution.  They will be used as a
starting point, presumably, if anyone wants to port it.  (I do know several
people in the FreeBSD team who do want to port to various architectures, and
they are bright enough and dedicated enough to make it work, if they set
their minds to it.)

Bear in mind that all FreeBSD 1.x releases are based on Net/2.  All 2.x
releases will be based on 4.4-Lite.