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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!cherry.atlanta.com!nntp.mindspring.com!usenet From: rsanders@mindspring.com (Robert Sanders) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: gcc 2.5.8 on FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 Date: 15 Jul 1994 03:44:31 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 39 Message-ID: <RSANDERS.94Jul14234438@hrothgar.mindspring.com> References: <rcarterCsxwE1.56p@netcom.com> <michaelv.774215392@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: hrothgar.mindspring.com In-reply-to: michaelv@iastate.edu's message of 14 Jul 94 19:49:52 GMT On 14 Jul 94 19:49:52 GMT, michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon) said: In article <michaelv.774215392@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon) writes: > In <rcarterCsxwE1.56p@netcom.com> rcarter@netcom.com (Russell > Carter) writes: >> Has anybody got gcc 2.5.8 running on FreeBSD 1.1.5.1? This may be >> the proverbial "last straw" for me; linux here I come. And sad it >> is, wolf's ncr pci driver is working great. > If that's your attitude, the Linux users can have you. We don't want him. We have plenty. But before you toss him back, maybe you should ask him why he needs gcc 2.5.8? I've found that no matter how often I think "no, you only think you need that" is the correct answer, it rarely is. That's another big difference between the BSD groups and the Linux groups: the YouOnlyThinkYouNeedThat to Here'sHowToDoIt ratio is much higher 'round here. Besides, if you check the gcc 2.5.8 vs. gcc 2.4.5 track record, you'll find that most of the exasperating 2.5.8 bugs are g++ ones and don't affect the average C user. I've also seen reports of gcc 2.4.5 miscompiling several things, including the floppy tape driver and the Linux kernel. I'm sure you think that's just gcc showing good taste, but I don't like miscompiled operating systems. The fact that Warner Losh continually rants about g++ 2.5.8 doesn't interest me at all, so everybody please don't bring it up. > Incidentally, aside from the fact that you can build gcc2.5.8 > yourself, it's substantially buggier than 2.4.5. But that would be > just like a Linux user -- must have the latest bells and whisles at > all costs, even if it doesn't work as well as the tried and true. Man, that's what I hate *most* about Linux users. No, wait, I think I hate their big stupid ugly operating system more than I hate Linux users. I can't decide which sucks worse, cuz they both suck pretty bad. We BSD users are elyte. -- Robert