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From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi ASAMI)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.os.386bsd.questions
Subject: 3c509 and 3c503? [FreeBSD]
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Date: 4 Jul 94 18:44:14
Organization: CS Div. - EECS, University of California, Berkeley, CA 94720
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I have a question about 3Com 3c50? cards.  I am trying to setup a
small LAN of computers using ethernet with my apartment-mates.  Seems
like 3com 3c503 and 3c509 are the most popular cards (at least for
FreeBSD).  3c509 seems a whole lot cheaper ($150 vs. $120 at regular
places, plus I've seen a "special offer" of "2 for $99" (!) for
3c509).

However, I've seen some reports about 3c509 having problems with the
FreeBSD driver, e.g., (from KNOWNBUGS of FreeBSD)

===
/sys/i386/isa/if_ep.c
        The 3c509 driver will hang under heavy network loads and take your 
        machine off the network.  (Though the machine will continue to run with
        no network facilities)

        Workaround: Try a "ifconfig ep0 down" and a "ifconfig ep0 up"
===

But also some people say it works fine for them.  So, my questions
are:

(1) Is this problem solved, or does it happen only in certain
    configurations (e.g., only if there is a Sapphire Roadster VLB
    board in the master slot, etc.)?

(2) What are the differences between the two cards?  What does the
    "Etherlink-II/III" mean?  Which is newer?  Which is better (I
    know, no flames please)?  Is 3c509 cheaper because it's older, or
    is it cheaper because it's newer? :)

(3) Do you know anything else about them?

Thanks-
Satoshi

P.S. I read the c.s.i.p.h.* FAQ, couldn't find anything about them....