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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!news.hawaii.edu!ames!olivea!uunet!hela.iti.org!hela.iti.org!scs From: scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: Berkeley Strikes Back? Message-ID: <scs.712937030@hela.iti.org> Date: 4 Aug 92 14:03:50 GMT References: <158frnINN5cn@agate.berkeley.edu> <MIKE.92Jul30085914@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu> <1992Jul30.193017.28689@gateway.novell.com> <1992Aug3.010714.13359@athena.cs.uga.edu> <scs.712849571@hela.iti.org> <jim.712886149@oinker> <scs.712889713@wotan.iti.org> Sender: usenet@iti.org (Hela USENET News System) Organization: Industrial Technology Institute Lines: 32 Nntp-Posting-Host: hela.iti.org scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons) writes: >No, it sounds right. UCB/CRSG was signing stock AT&T academic licenses. >Again, please allow for hazy memory . . . the first few UNIX licenses I >saw were from Western Electric for UNIX v7 and System III. That clause >appeared with the V32 release, and UCB wouldn't sign. Therefore the >last license they signed was probably from WE. [[ background -- the clause I'm referring to says that AT&T owns the modifications you make to UNIX. ]] Our 1984 BSD license has surfaced from our files here, and I gotta correct some errors I made above. The license says " . . . AT&T Corporation and/or its predecessor Western Electric Company . . . " So it had become AT&T's UNIX by then. The license also says " . . . the Fourth Berkeley Software Distribution contains proprietary software beloing to AT&T and licensed by AT&T as UNIX/32V. LICENCEE [[that's us]] represents and warrants that it has obtained and currently holds a valid license to use UNIX/V32, SYSTEM-III and/or SYSTEM-V . . ." Clearly UCB did sign a 32V license; clearly System V licenses were available when UCB issued their license to us; clearly a System V license was *not* used for BSD4.X. So the clause probably appeared with System V. -- "If life were fair, the acquisition of a large bosom or a massive inheritance would have no bearing on your ability to attract the opposite sex, and Dan Quayle would be making a living asking runny-nosed children, `Do you want fries with that?'" -- John Cleese