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From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr)
Subject: Details on the 386BSD Release 1.0 CD-ROM
Message-ID: <jmonroyCprpBJ.LpL@netcom.com>
Keywords: 386bsd release details
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 00:57:18 GMT
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                Details on the 386BSD Release 1.0 CD-ROM
                ----------------------------------------
 
From: Chris Hanson <chanson@mtlookitthat.chi.il.us>
>>
>> I was a little bit perturbed when I wrote the above...  In any case,
>> what I mean to be asking is whether the new code in 386BSD is
>> proprietary.  Please don't whine ..............
>>  :: [deleted stuff] ::
>>
        I have beed sent much mail on this subject and my
        offical answer is:
 
                    I don't know.
 
        However, I will personally ask about this.
 
 
>> isn't proprietary, I want to know so I can be happy about that and the
>> code exchange that will happen between {386,Net,Free}BSD.
>>
        Code exchange?   How about people drop their silly
        excuse for a code tree?
 
 
From: veit@mururoa.gmd.de (Holger Veit)
>>
>> Probably, the Jolitzes have no longer news access (would explain *some
>> things*).  Rumours are that they are active on Compu$erve or BIX.
>> Can someone with an account there confirm this (or the converse)?
>>
        The Jolitzes have accounts on many networks.
        The fact that many "netters" perfer to be thought
        of as *THE* experts have driven them to a much
        more conducive atmosphere.
 
 
From: grog@lemis.uucp (Greg Lehey)
>>
>> I don't see how they can get it to boot from a Mitsumi drive, even
>> with a different CD-ROM, since the machine BIOS doesn't know about
>> Mitsumis. The Mitsumi board BIOS might be able to do it, but I haven't
>> seen any jumper settings indicating that it is prepared to do so.
>>
        Mitsumi, Mitsubishi, Toshiba and other "el-cheapo" brands
        won't work.  They all use processor-hogging implementations.
        What this means is that like the QIC-40/80 devices, these
        media types will not be supported till someone takes the
        time to port them to *bsd (and not just LINUX).
 
 
From: vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com (Vernon Schryver)
>>
>> Let's hope you're wrong, because if you're right the implications are
>> nasty.
>>
>> Why would people promoting a UNIX product not pay the $20/month required
>> to get access to netnews (e.g. Netcom), but instead pay the much higher
>> (I think) costs of CompuServe?
>>
        Sparing the folly of your question; most people don't
        even know what the "NET" is about.  Take for instance
        the lawyer that posted an article advertising his
        service in immigration.  His account was terminated in
        about a day.  I'll let you speculate on the obvious.
 
>> Which is likely to have more people
>> interested in spending $100 for a UNIX operating system CDROM to use,
>> instead of impress the fellows down at the bar?
>>
        Naive to the end.
 
>> Which audience is more likely to think our friend Jesus is a UNIX
>> Wizard and Guru and accord him the respect he deserves?
>>
        Well, there was some good in this article?!? (:-)
 
 
From: richk@netcom6.netcom.com (Richard Krehbiel)
>>
>> What SCSI adapter do you use?  My Adaptec 1542 does not have a setting
>> that allows me to boot any SCSI unit other than 0, and that's my hard
>> disk.
>>
        If you call adaptec, they have new PROM code
        that allows booting from any SCSI ID.
        The PROM is also available from their BBS,
        if you didn't already know this.
 
 
From: guy@dearg.cuillin.org.uk (Guy Dawson)
>>
>> OK...
>>
>> So the bootable CD problem has boiled down to the need for a SCSI card
>> with a BIOS that can load boot blocks from a CD-ROM.
>>
>> Does anyone know of such a card currently shipping?
>>
        AHH... am easy question... While much of the *NIX world
        has been napping,  the MS-DOS counter parts have move to
        an ASPI standard.   The standard was started by Adaptec
        and other SCSI card makers.    Bus mastering SCSI
        controller cards that are ASPI compliant cards should
        work.
 
 
        The remaining question is:
 
            How long are *NIX vendors going to write specialize
            drivers code for X thousands of controller cards?
 
 
        OK  kids..... Flame away.
 
 
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Jesus Monroy Jr                                          jmonroy@netcom.com
Zebra Research
/386BSD/device-drivers /fd /qic /clock /documentation
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Jesus Monroy Jr                                          jmonroy@netcom.com
Zebra Research
/386BSD/device-drivers /fd /qic /clock /documentation
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