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Xref: sserve comp.os.linux.misc:13599 comp.os.os2.misc:92437 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:24587 comp.os.386bsd.misc:2395 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.unix.misc,comp.windows.x.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!amdahl!netcomsv!netcom.com!hasty From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) Subject: Re: OpenStep for $100 Message-ID: <hastyCoqAtn.H37@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <2p3obs$f8k@acme.gatech.edu> <hastyCoLKuB.BtF@netcom.com> <Coop38.27y@rex.uokhsc.edu> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 20:12:58 GMT Lines: 46 In article <Coop38.27y@rex.uokhsc.edu> benjamin-goldsteen@uokhsc.edu writes: >hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) writes: > >>In article <2p3obs$f8k@acme.gatech.edu> ccastco@prism.gatech.edu (Costas Malamas) writes: >>>In article <cairnss.766797259@ucsu.colorado.edu>, >>>Queenie <cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> wrote: >>> >dmuir@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Douglas Muir) writes: >>> > > >Actually, an SGI Indy isn't too much more than a well equiped PC -- and >you get a lot of extra value. Also, the HP and Dec low end workstations fall in this category. Well, $5000 SGI Indy is for a diskless configuration or so I remember the last time. Its X performance from a visual inspection did not strike me as being that fast. The new S3 [89]64 based cards will probably be in the range of the SGI Indy. Thomas Roell has rated his X server at around 260k xstones for an S3 964 based board. On 3D graphics, the SGI will most likely leave us on the dust till the new 3D graphic chipsets hit the market. Fully functionable P90 systems are starting to sell at around $4000. You add about $1000 worth of software to the system and is more than a match for low end workstations (except in the area of 3D graphics). >>The real question should be to whom do we wish to target FreeBSD to ? > >People who want a stable UNIX for programming, X11, freeware apps, and >hacking? > We are already doing that;however, when people start asking questions like if we would like OpenStep then I think the target users is different than the ones that we have now. So if we are going to a more user friendly market then perhaps re-vamping our tools may help us get there. For instance, a better interface to gdb, gcc, and emacs... Yes, I know that emacs has that capability but I am think in terms of Visual C++. Amancio -- FREE unix, gcc, tcp/ip, X, open-look, tcl/tk, MIME, midi, sound at freebsd.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD Amancio Hasty, Consultant | Home: (415) 495-3046 | e-mail hasty@netcom.com | ftp-site depository of all my work: ahasty@cisco.com | sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov:/pub/386bsd/X