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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!mips!mips!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!agate!soda.berkeley.edu!gwh From: gwh@soda.berkeley.edu (George William Herbert) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: AT&T amended complaint available on uunet Date: 3 Aug 1992 09:49:28 GMT Organization: Dis- Lines: 42 Sender: gwh@soda.berkeley.edu (George William Herbert) Message-ID: <15ivf8INN8uc@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <PHR.92Aug3011031@soda.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu Summary: They're up to something else, too... In article phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin) writes: >For those that are interested, the AT&T/USL First Amended Complaint >against BSDI and the UC Regents has recently appeared on >ftp.uu.net:vendor/bsdi/usl/920724.complaint.Z. > >The new complaint names all the UC regents (individually), outlines a >fairly lurid conspiracy theory about CSRG purposely passing AT&T >secrets to BSDI, and alleges that Net/2 contains AT&T copyrighted code >but does *not* say what specific code is supposedly copied. It asks for >injunctions to stop BSDI and UC from distributing Net/2 derived code. Rather scarily, it also mentions but does not quite explain how is relevant the clause that lets AT&T/USL take back the rights of the University of California's right to use UNIX. I also would like to see two things: one, the USL evidence that there's copied or significantly derived code in Net/2 (files & line # please) and two, evidence that CSRG people conspired to illegally give BSDI something that they couldn't get publically. I can't comment on the first one lacking locations and both sets of code (Do I really want to look at AT&T code enough to compare them after the taint claims that have come up? 8-P ). The second one, however, looks sorta tenuous... BSDI didn't start doing things, as far as I can tell, until after Net/2 appeared; Kolstad, if I remember right, says that they got their copy of Net/2 off uunet. There's obviously an incestuous relationship between some people from CSRG and BSDI... not that we didn't already know that. It was pretty apparent at the winter Usenix. Was it illegal? Didn't look that way; better have good evidence. Was it immoral? Well, since CSRG was disintegrating anyway 8-(, why not? I don't like it going away, but they need to make money and if it's not CSRG paying for thier living, someone else has to. *shrug* I just want to see the evidence. -george william herbert gwh@soda.berkeley.edu gwh@lurnix.com herbert@uchu.isu92.ac.jp until 28 aug ++ copyright 1992 george william herbert. All rights except usenet ++ ++ transmission/use and inclusion in followup/reply articles/mail reserved. ++ Disclaimer: I sure as hell am not talking for the University or its regents or any other officials or groups. Sorry 8-) .