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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:2251 comp.os.linux.misc:12550 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au!umisef From: umisef@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Bernd Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Impressions: FreeBSD vs Linux Date: 6 Apr 1994 19:14:03 GMT Organization: Monash University Lines: 75 Message-ID: <2nv1ls$531@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au> References: <2n9f90$9em@great-miami.iac.net> <R8m2Jc1w165w@oasys.pc.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #3 (NOV) othman@oasys.pc.my (Othman Ahmad) writes: >skyhook@iac.net (Chris Thompson) writes: >> >> Is there MS-DOG Emulation? ( until I see quicken for Linux, I need DOS apps) >> Will WABI/WINE work there? (I'd love to see Word for Windows under X) >> is there iBCS2 support? (In ALPHA for Linux, run SCO binaries) >> >How good are all these? I tried the MSDOS emulation before but it was so full >of bugs and limited that I'd rather reboot. Well, by the end of last year, a friend of mine was doing ALL his DOS work under the dosemu, including his WYSIWYG textprocessor and his Turbo Pascal programming. Since then, two new releases with lots of new features have been out, so he probably is still doing it.... It also allows machines like mine, which have a modem dialin, still to run that naughty DOS program. Wine is clearly stated ALPHA and has no real value yet - or at least it didn't the last time I ran it (Feb. '94), and since then there has been no announcement stating otherwise. But I played a few games of solitaire on it, and it looked very promising. I'm looking forward to the day it becomes really usable. iBCS2 support went into official ALPHA a few days back (that is, it is a step further than Wine, which is still hidden in private directories), and it works well enough to run the X version of WordPerfect. That's enough for me, for now..... >Linux is full of these experimental features and they keep on piling them >quickly without much thought. Soo Linux will be overwhelmed. It now has many >versions of file systems but still none with the capablility of FFS because >Linus hate it. The nice thing (IMHO) about the "experimental features" is that they tend to become nonexperimental within a few weeks. This happened to the sounddrivers, to the QIC-02 tape driver (thank you to the author!) as well as to the QIC-40/80 tape driver. This happened to UMSDOS FS, the Cluster patches, the IDE performance packet, the XIAFS.... And the even nicer thing is that though Linus decides, which THE linux at any given moment is, I can still chose which patches I want to apply.... > The last time I studied Linux networking code, it was adapted Net/2 >code with hacks to make it work for Linux. Otherwise how could they get those >networking utilities up so quickly. Ooops - let's not start this bad debate again... The NET2 code has nothing to do with Net/2 (BSD). It was written from scratch. Of course, the BSD networking utilities are used, but that's about it. I hope this misunderstanding dies when the (hinted at) NET3 sees the light of the day. BTW, there actually IS a port of the BSD networking code to linux, and you have to use that if you want to use ISDN (because the ISDN drivers author chose to code for that port...), but it certainly isn't the standard networking code under linux! >Linux is ONLY for X86, whereas BSD is for ALL. If you want a toy to play with, >go for Linux, but if you want to go on to greater things, try BSD. Why this controversial attitude? For example I myself know that I won't be able to afford anything but a X86 for quite some time from now (and I can't afford a X86, I just happen to have one :-), so I'm pretty happy with linux. It gives me all I want (and more), and it has done so for the last two years. The same could probably be said about *BSD... I never tried it, so I can't comment on it. If somebody asks me what to install, I tell them exactly this, and they'll probably install linux, because they know my phonenumber and know whom to call when it goes wrong..... Bernie -- "And the band played 'Waltzing Mathilda' / as we stopped to bury our slain; And we buried ours / and the Turks buried theirs | ..... living in Oz .... And it started all over again" | (The Pogues, "Waltzing Mathilda", orig by Eric Bogle, "And the band played WM")