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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!pa.dec.com!usenet.pa.dec.com!jkh From: jkh@morse.ilo.dec.com (Jordan Hubbard) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD questions Date: 05 Apr 1994 12:46:17 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Galway Ireland Lines: 46 Distribution: world Message-ID: <JKH.94Apr5134618@morse.ilo.dec.com> References: <2nr6kr$jc2@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: morse.ilo.dec.com In-reply-to: koosh@racine.ccs.itd.umich.edu's message of 5 Apr 1994 08:14:19 GMT In article <2nr6kr$jc2@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> koosh@racine.ccs.itd.umich.edu (David L. Cushard) writes: 1) Whenever the "date" command is used, output looks like this: Tue Apr 4 08:02:45 See zic(8) or link /etc/localtime directly 1994 that "See zic..." part always gets inserted in there and I don't know why...No manual info on anything called "zic" is present. Look in /usr/share/zoneinfo - you want to link /etc/localtime to the file appropriate to you. For example, in California: jkh@freefall-> ls -l /etc/localtime lrwxrwxr-x 1 root 30 Mar 12 17:34 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zon einfo/US/Pacific 2) I seem to be having some kind of terminal problem or something...As my erase and carriage return does not always work properly. It works fine just in shell, but when I use tip and cu for my modem and hit the backspace key, I see "^?" instead of erasing the character. It actually Have you played with `stty echoe'? Also, I run an application, a MUD more specifically that accepts connections on port 2222. When I "telnet localhost 2222" I suffer from the same backspace woes described above...However, in this case I am ALSO plagued This is different. The MUD is supporting an older, and unfortunately broken telnet protocol. A few systems and things like MUD broke when we made this change, but certain folks feel strongly that being correct is more important than being usable in these situations. I personally do not agree, and screamed loudly to no avail when this happened, but what's done is done. You could send mail to the MUD maintainers about this and try to get them to fix it, I'm not sure. Failing that, compiling up a telnet from FreeBSD 1.0.2 sources would also do the trick. 3) Related to #2, I'm just curious what "crt" "newcrt" "crterase" stty options actually are. They are not described a bit in the man pages, yet I see this used in the .login supplied for root, and also in the /usr/share/skel dot.login file. `pretend you're on a CRT with reasonably intelligent erase features'. I think this is now the default. echoe and echok are probably more relevant to you. You need to compile a kernel with ppp support - see /sys/i386/conf/LINT. Jordan