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Subject: Re: BSD vs. Linux
Message-ID: <DHOLLAND.94Mar14164302@husc7.harvard.edu>
From: dholland@husc7.harvard.edu (David Holland)
Date: 14 Mar 94 16:43:02
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sja@snakemail.hut.fi's message of 14 Mar 94 14:43:32 GMT said:

 > Unused hardware can be usually configured out of the kernel.
 > I seriously doubt that whatever unused hardware support remains
 > is going to make a big difference. 

That was just an example. There are all sorts of areas where excess
junk floats in.

Let's see:

 > $ ls -l /linux
 > -rw-r--r--   1 root     root       502276 Apr 25  1993 /linux
 > 
 > # ls -l /netbsd
 > -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  491594 Feb 28 16:23 /netbsd

caylith# ll /vmlinux
----------   1 kernel   kernel     215556 Mar  4 23:03 /vmlinux

Of course, my kernel is compressed. Maybe yours isn't.

 > As long as kernel sizes are the same within a few hundred kB,
 > the "lots of kernel code for exotic hardware" theory has a
 > definite problem. 

Code size is only part of it. Speed is another part. The memory
requirements of the basic utilities, too. 

When your machine has 4 megs of memory, a "few hundred kB", as you
say, can mean the difference between a minute to compile and ten
minutes thrashing to swap space.

 > > Are you going to convince me that BSD
 > > doesn't suffer from the same sorts of problems?
 > 
 > Probably not.

Oops. I meant to say "are you going to TRY TO convince me..." :-)

As I said before, maybe NetBSD has gone on a diet, but when I went
looking I was told it required a more powerful system than I had,
whereas Linux didn't.

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