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From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: AT&T sues BSDI & Our Retaliation
Message-ID: <1992Jul29.214714.9919@morrow.stanford.edu>
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References: <9207231306.AA06854@GRANNY.CS.NYU.EDU> <4442@hq.hq.af.mil> <l7c8pgINN7a1@neuro.usc.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:47:14 GMT
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In article <l7c8pgINN7a1@neuro.usc.edu> merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin) writes:
>In article <4442@hq.hq.af.mil# john@hq.af.mil writes:
>#Several Ideas for retaliation.
>#5) while :
>#   do
>#	ls /usr/spool/news/junk #/tmp/foo
>#	for i in `cat /tmp/foo`
>#	do
>#		mail postmaster@att.com </usr/spool/news/junk/$i
>#	done
>#	sleep 600
>#   done

I give this scheme about ten minutes between the
time someone at AT&T notices it and the time all the
messages the saboteurs send start getting dumped on the
floor.

The bandwidth this takes would inconvenience
everyone on the Internet, not just AT&T.

>#6) Use the tcp wrapper to exclude all att.com connections to
>#your box. wuarchives, uunet, prep, etc. And generally make the net
>#and unfriendly place for AT&T to do business. Kill their forwarded
>#mail. Stomp their packets on your bridges routers and so forth.
>
>Please don't do either (5) or (6) [the part about killing forwarded
>email] -- in some jurisdictions such actions may be considered to be
>criminal -- in other jurisdictions that just seem simply unfriendly.

(5) could be viewed as a denial-of-service attack.
More likely,the worst outcome would be some finger-wagging
from the perpetrator's INternet service provider.

I doubt that (6) is illegal unless it's done by
a system that has common carrier status.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu