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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!paladin.american.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!netsys!pagesat.net!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!jmonroy From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) Subject: Re: tape drive drivers Message-ID: <jmonroyCKFzLt.MCy@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <CJzHMn.Iz1@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1994Jan27.005813.8984@newshost.lanl.gov> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 12:20:16 GMT Lines: 109 John M. Galbraith,(GRA) (jxg@purcell.lanl.gov) wrote: : > : > I don't see what the connection is between Steve's driver and your driver. : > Are the two connected somehow? Steve did not think enough of your influence : > on his project to even include your name -anywhere- in the code. : > : I have followed the QIC driver stuff for a while. This is what happened from : my perspective: : I posted (not the first one to do so) about getting a QIC80 device driver written, : and I was willing to participate. Lynne Jolitz told me to contact jmonroy, who : was unknown to me at the time. I did, and joined his little list of developers : along with Dave Burgess, and some others. We all ended up sitting on our butts : reading QIC NEWS until I got sick of waiting, and started to gather interest for : a new effort.: : The above is true and correct... the fault was mine... I started a small mailing list, and so on. Dave Burgess provided : some archive space. : This part is also true... (small is a relative number..) : I actually had some code, and the driver was on its way. : First,,, I've ever even heard of this. : About this time, a coherent email conversation was started between me and jmonroy : (by jesus). I told him what we were doing, where the code was, who was involved, : and how to get on the list. : partial correct (from my perspective). an e-mail conversation was started, but a "coherent" conversation was far from the truth. "We" was never an issue, as I nver knew who "we" was or is..... to this day, I still know of no more persons than steve on this mailing list... to add to this, I have never seen any mailing list mentioned on any FAQ, nor have I ever seen any announcements, beyond the initial announcement, as to the existance of this "mailing list" Further, if such a list existed I would be more than happy to make mention of it in QIC NEWS and NOTES (which may or may not be dead now.) : (I was list owner, and could take him off when he : became annoying.) : I am owener and King, and I can silence who I want. : After jmonroy realized we were doing something, our conversation : turned more and more to the jmonroy we all know and love. His english became : less and less coherent, so I just dropped it. : True, you dropped the conversation. But, somehow you don't have the guts to say, "Hey buddy I no longer want to deal with you because I don't like your ideas..." No... John, I won't go on... I'm tried of dealing with people like you.. with... (I won't go on...) : Jmonroy did nothing but hinder the QIC80 effort, from my point of view. : Suck an egg! Buddy ... you don't have a clue... I've been as nice as I can to people like you but I'm real tired of the fact that many can't even bother to read a dammmmm simple text book.... : As far as I can tell, he is all talk (or _type_, : as the case may be). : What you forgot... Hype.?!? : Steve had a hard time getting anybody to test his driver, : probably because of all the jmonroy fuss, which had nothing to do with him. : inuendo ... lack of perceptive forethought ... personal attack with a real lack of ethics. : The driver is all Steve's, with no (positive) jmonroy influence. : Why don't you suck an egg... I don't think I've repeated this enough for your small ....... "I have absolutely nothing to do with Steve's driver" : As far as I know, : he had no help at all except for a couple alpha testers. : Well,,,,, welcome to the real world... fool. : : > It looks like you had about >< this much of an impact on his work. : > : even less... : even less than you think. -- Jesus Monroy Jr jmonroy@netcom.com Zebra Research /386BSD/device-drivers /fd /qic /clock /documentation ___________________________________________________________________________