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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!decwrl!nic.hookup.net!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!csn!hellgate.utah.edu!lanl!nash!jxg From: jxg@purcell.lanl.gov (John M. Galbraith,(GRA)) Subject: Re: tape drive drivers Message-ID: <1994Jan27.005813.8984@newshost.lanl.gov> Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov Reply-To: jxg@purcell.lanl.gov Organization: purcell LANL References: <CJzHMn.Iz1@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 00:58:13 GMT Lines: 72 In article Iz1@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu, pitts@mimosa.astro.indiana.edu (Jim Pitts) writes: > In article <jmonroyCJyrE3.FMo@netcom.com>, > Jesus Monroy Jr <jmonroy@netcom.com> wrote: > >Jim Pitts (pitts@mimosa.astro.indiana.edu) wrote: > >: In article <jmonroyCJrt28.L5B@netcom.com>, > >: Jesus Monroy Jr <jmonroy@netcom.com> wrote: > >: >Marc WANDSCHNEIDER (storm@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote: > >: > > >: > > > > >: Just grabbed it this morning. I don't think you made a liar out of the original > >: poster at all. Looking at the distribution we have a Steve Gerakines to thank > >: (unless this is Mr. Monroy's pen name). I did not see you name anywhere on the > >: software. In fact Steve not only has the sole copyright but also is kind > >: enough to have all problems/questions directed to -his- E-mail address. It > >: doesn't look like Jesus will even be offering support for the driver. :) > >: > > Early on Steve wrote to me asked me about my driver, > > he replied that he could no wait for my development. > > I understand his delema (sp?) this being one reason > > for QIC NEWS and NOTES (not eade yet). > > What 'delema' are you speaing of. It looked like he wrote a driver and > released it. > > I don't see what the connection is between Steve's driver and your driver. > Are the two connected somehow? Steve did not think enough of your influence > on his project to even include your name -anywhere- in the code. > I have followed the QIC driver stuff for a while. This is what happened from my perspective: I posted (not the first one to do so) about getting a QIC80 device driver written, and I was willing to participate. Lynne Jolitz told me to contact jmonroy, who was unknown to me at the time. I did, and joined his little list of developers along with Dave Burgess, and some others. We all ended up sitting on our butts reading QIC NEWS until I got sick of waiting, and started to gather interest for a new effort. I started a small mailing list, and so on. Dave Burgess provided some archive space. I actually had some code, and the driver was on its way. About this time, a coherent email conversation was started between me and jmonroy (by jesus). I told him what we were doing, where the code was, who was involved, and how to get on the list. (I was list owner, and could take him off when he became annoying.) After jmonroy realized we were doing something, our conversation turned more and more to the jmonroy we all know and love. His english became less and less coherent, so I just dropped it. About two weeks later Steve comes along and posts with a driver ready for alpha testing! Steve was doing something while the rest of us were flaming jmonroy. The code was (is) well written (far better than the Linux driver at the time. Don't know what it is like now) and far along. Jmonroy did nothing but hinder the QIC80 effort, from my point of view. I guess it all worked out for the best, since we have Steve's driver now. Who knows what jmonroy's would have looked like. As far as I can tell, he is all talk (or _type_, as the case may be). Steve had a hard time getting anybody to test his driver, probably because of all the jmonroy fuss, which had nothing to do with him. The driver is all Steve's, with no (positive) jmonroy influence. As far as I know, he had no help at all except for a couple alpha testers. > It looks like you had about >< this much of an impact on his work. > even less... john