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From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.apps
Subject: Re: seeking smaller emacs
Date: 24 Jan 94 06:16:19 GMT
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
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jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard) writes:

 >In article <9401231826.AA04996@moose.usmcs.maine.edu> swanton@moose.usmcs.maine.edu (George P. Swanton) writes:
 >   I've been using the emacs19.19 package on my laptop (which only has 8M ram)
 >   Running under X it's ok running gcc OR emacs but for one to run, the other
 >   has to get kicked out. I dont use emacs for one tenth of what it can do,
 >   especially this new one. Could someone suggest an alternate editor with
 >   emacs key bindings without all the bells and whistles that is known to 
 >   build under FreeBSD-1.0R?

 >Get the uemacs (microEmacs) package from freebsd.cdrom.com - it sounds
 >exactly like what the doctor ordered!

 >					Jordan
 >--
 >(Jordan K Hubbard) jkh@violet.berkeley.edu, jkh@al.org, jkh@whisker.hubbard.ie
 >FreeBSD Core Team.               I *AM* the barnacle-encrusted bivalve of doom.

I don't want to start a fight, but I gave up on microemacs a long time ago
because it was too much of a hackers toy.  There were some fundamental
problems with the design that the main developer did not fix because he was
too busy adding toys, like a macro language that was very fragile.  But to
get error-parsing and a lot of other things I had to use the language, which
would crash very easily.  My other main irritation was that you could open
help windows on help windows.

I use and endorse jove, which does not have an extention language, but
really does not need one.  It does C and lisp formatting if you wish and
does interactive shells as well as a compile-it function that allows you to
step either way through the errors.  The latest version is always on
relay.cs.toronto.edu:/pub/moraes.  The last I saw was 4.14.10.  I use it on
SunOS 4.1.3 and Solaris 2.3.  I have not tried it on any of the 386 bsds,
but I would be very surprised if the bsdposix config did not work.

Another small emacs gathering steam on the horizon is jed.  It is a little
more like GNU emacs in some ways, although it started as edt with emacs
features.  It can still be pushed in either direction.  It has a powerful
C-like extention language.  I just started trying it again today after a
lapse of a couple of years.  It can be fetched at amy.tch.harvard.edu.


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