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From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr)
Subject: Re: 386BSD on a cheap PC
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 19:31:04 GMT
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In article <2hhi1p$lva@pdq.coe.montana.edu> nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu (Nate Williams) writes:
>In article <hastyCJtDIG.7BE@netcom.com>,
>Amancio Hasty Jr <hasty@netcom.com> wrote:
>>In article <2hfuj1$huf@pdq.coe.montana.edu> nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu (Nate Williams) writes:
>I write:> I was able to get X into 45MB (including
>I write:>swap) back in the pre-shared lib days with a very early version of FreeBSD,
>I write:>so it's doable.  (But not recommeended)
>
>>May I ask why is not recommended to have a very small installation
>>of FreeBSD;specially, if we have shared libraries?
>
>The small installation I was speaking about did nothing but run X.  No
>compilers, no man pages, no room for apps, no X clients, nothing but the
>kernel and necessary utilities + X fonts and the X server.  This was
>pre-shared so you could go alot smaller now.  
>
>It's not recommended since it can do nothing but server as an
>X-terminal.  However, I think once the diskless support is finalized I
>think it may become more viable to build minimal installations.
>
>
I think since there is an X terminal market the above mentioned
installation is still useful to some. A typical scenario is for
a user which runs Windows but has a FreeBSD installation just
to run X. The cost of such a setup is still far less than 
buying an X server for DOS.

There was a minimal X installation requiring less than 4MB of disk space
it just had an xterm and that was pre-shared library days. It
is conceivable to have an X installation with shared libraries with
a few more apps and using the same or less disk space. Also,
if we included tcl/tk along with a few well chosen extensions
and scripts such a minimal X installation will go a long way.


Perhaps, someone with a need to have a small FreeBSD installation and
someone that has a large disk can get together and forge a Tiny 
FreeBSD installation, hopefully with shared library support.

If we could cram the installation into 7 or less floppies it will
be fantastic.

	Enjoy,
	Amancio

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