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From: peterson@mustard.fs.com (Steve Peterson)
Subject: Re: [NETBIOS] Anyone with NetBIOS Unix code? Or SMB?
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 02:23:37 GMT
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Todd C. Miller (millert@Colorado.EDU) wrote:
: From the keyboard of hamish@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz (Hamish Marson):
: > A Wizard of Earth C (terry@cs.weber.edu) wrote:
: > > In article <2d1vuh$4am@jake.micromuse.co.uk> peter@micromuse.co.uk writes:
: > > >I thought much of IPX/SPX whatever are documented in various texts. If
: > > >someone implements it "clean-room" style then no license ? Like I know
: > > >DEC have some sort of patent on part of LAT or something. Is there
: > > >something similar in the Novell protocol stack ?
: > 
: > > I am pretty sure a spec has never been published; I don't know its
: > > status.  Sorry.
: > 
: > 
: > IPX/SPX are public knowledge, and are published widely in many places,
: > available from novell and others. Its very similar to Xerox XNS. (Its
: > actually based on it).
: > 
: > NCP on the other hand (Netware Core Protocol) is the protocols that
: > netware server/clients use to actually send and recieve commands to
: > reach oither. Mostly IPX is used as a transport medium, but IP is now
: > available as well. NCP is very secret and hush hush, although you can
: > licence the specs from novell (very expensive), or do a clean room and
: > develope your own (Not too easy, but I think it could be done in a few
: > weeks with a network sniffer and a little time with the novell sold
: > toolkits).

: Dr Dobbs Journal's (Nov 1993) Undocumented Corner conatins info on NCP
: and lists other sources plus hints on gathering more info yourself.
: I only scanned the article, but it seems like a good place to start.

:  - todd
: -- 
:                     Todd C. Miller          millert@Colorado.EDU

I thought I saw that Beame & Whiteside just announced a Novell server clone.
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Steve Peterson
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