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From: steve@combs (Stephen F. Combs)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: An offer to the NetBSD and FreeBSD teams: the ???BSD Peace Prize.
Date: 15 Nov 1993 15:55:29 GMT
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Adam Glass (glass@postgres.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:

:    The NetBSD folks were more-or-less uniformly "insulted" by the whole
:    suggestion of the "Peace Prize".  

:    I find this difference instructive.

: 					   - Bill

: I think i should expand upon this.  I was one of the NetBSD people
: offended by Bill's mail/post.

: I for one do not do NetBSD for $, I do it for fun.  More importantly,
: NetBSD's decision making is based on careful reasoning by reasonably
: well-informed and experienced individuals.  I do not like the
: suggestion that for what I view as a *BRIBE*, we or FreeBSD should
: change our carefully chosen directions.  If we have chosen to go our
: seperate ways for whatever reasons, it is not appropriate to offer
: bribes to change that decision.

: As for the greater issue, these discussions have gone on in private
: for a long time.  That they failed for various reasons is indeed
: unfortunate.  However, you the public *MUST* realize that trying to
: force a merge upon both parties is a mis-guided goal.  Some things are
: just not meant to be.  Perhaps other opportunities will arise in the future.

: As you have seen, the differences betwen the groups are great on many
: levels.  It is my suggestion to the 386bsd/NetBSD/FreeBSD user
: community that they learn to live with these differences, and enjoy
: the productive competition that has/will result.  

: later,
: Adam Glass
: a NetBSDer
: --
: Adam Glass                        |E-mail home: glass@sun-lamp.cs.berkeley.edu
: 				  |Physical   : Seattle
: 		     "reality is for dead birds"

I personally, have NEVER suggested that the (2(?)/3(?)) groups shoud merge.
'Twould have been nice to see a clean, ego-free, merge of SOME of the stuff
done by the Net/FreeBSD groups into a common area, but Merger has NEVER been
in my thoughts on both groups.  They BOTH have different ideas about what
the O/S should be!  I WOULD like to see less of the 'My O/S is better than
your O/S, Nyea, Nyea, Nyea (bronks cheer as appropriate)' and more of what
each group says they set out to do, i.e. for NetBSD more research into
O/S-kernal improvements and for FreeBSD a stable, usable system which is NOT
Bleeding-Edge but which provides a useable, stable kernal with a set of 
well-integrated utilities for the NON-Bleeding Edge user.

The fact of the matter is, that with the, as originally spoken, objectives
of each group, there would come a time when they would HAVE to diverge!

Please, let's cut the crap and get away from the "You guys screwed this up/
NO You guys screwed THAT up" diatrabes and get on with the program(s).

(Please excuse any typo's, mis-spellings, etc...)

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