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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!deraadt From: deraadt@fsa.ca (Theo de Raadt) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: Status on discussed merge between NetBSD and FreeBSD Date: 14 Nov 93 23:28:59 Organization: little lizard city Lines: 32 Message-ID: <DERAADT.93Nov14232859@sun-lamp.agate> References: <CGD.93Nov14085627@eden.cs.berkeley.edu> <CGHs3y.Au2@kithrup.com> <CGD.93Nov14100033@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU> <CGIAFq.7tL@aib.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sun-lamp.cs.berkeley.edu In-reply-to: dwex@aib.com's message of Sun, 14 Nov 1993 23:55:02 GMT In article <CGIAFq.7tL@aib.com> dwex@aib.com (David E. Wexelblat) writes: In article <CGD.93Nov14100033@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU> cgd@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou) writes: >The fact that, for the most part, the FreeBSD "developers" used their >accounts on sun-lamp *only* for the purpose of snarfing revisions of >our code and migrating it to FreeBSD revolted me, and it still does. >You can't call it "development" if you don't have a coherent understanding >of what's going on. That's exactly what i meant about the shared >libraries. Why does this upset you? If you make your code available to people and say "Hey, come play with our neat new stuff", you have no right whatsoever to get all up-in-arms if people actuall DO. If you don't want it released until it's done, then don't release it. Works for XFree86. David, I look forward to the day that a ``XFree86-current'' is sup'able nightly from some machine. Until then you cannot compare XFree86's open-ness with how open NetBSD is being. (I wonder how many active NetBSD-current users there are...) [regarding Xfree86] We don't allow early release of stuff, because we want to release it when we're ready. Guess what! That's exactly what we are trying to stop here! The problem is that FreeBSD people have been taking early releases of NetBSD ``stuff''. We want to release the code when we are ready, not when FreeBSD people feel it's time for them to ship it on a CD. Thanks for explaining that XFree86 also doesn't want unreleased code distributed.