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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!deraadt From: deraadt@fsa.ca (Theo de Raadt) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: Status on discussed merge between NetBSD and FreeBSD Date: 14 Nov 93 23:14:45 Organization: little lizard city Lines: 51 Message-ID: <DERAADT.93Nov14231445@sun-lamp.agate> References: <JKH.93Nov13222001.2@whisker.lotus.ie> <DERAADT.93Nov14120145@pain.agate> <CGI1IM.D1x@kithrup.com> <DERAADT.93Nov14131158@pain.agate> <CGI75p.Dsv@kithrup.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sun-lamp.cs.berkeley.edu In-reply-to: sef@kithrup.com's message of Sun, 14 Nov 1993 22:43:57 GMT In article <CGI75p.Dsv@kithrup.com> sef@kithrup.com (Sean Eric Fagan) writes: In article <DERAADT.93Nov14131158@pain.agate> deraadt@fsa.ca (Theo de Raadt) writes: >This is really funny, Sean. This is a prime example of how we attempt to >work with people, and how we provide attribution! Please. You complained that you were not attributed in the code. I pointed out that I wasn't, either, for my ptrace changes. Yes, and that is your own fault. MY, YOU'RE SOUR. I pointed out that, for all the files that did not have your name in the copyright in the freebsd version of yp, there was a comment in the CVS file saying that it was imported from netbsd, where someone could go look more closely (well, they could have, but that's closed now, isn't it?). The only place I am given attribution for my ptrace changes is in the CVS file, and that one update cgd posted. I explicitely sent mail to Paul Richards telling him to put my name in the commit message. And he didn't. You're bitching about yourself not getting credit (when it was yourself who failed to give yourself credit), yet, when I complain about someone not giving me credit (at my and other people's prodding that I should be given credit) -- you claim that I'm doing anything wrong? >Here's the significant portions of the logs: See? Yes, it's in the logs. But you folks distributed my code without making sure I had proper attribution in the code. And I don't really care. But I got even less attribution than you did. Yes you complain. And now you're jumping up to defend yourself. After complaining about the freebsd folks, who did just as much as you did. You failed to give yourself credit. You're stupid to not have given yourself credit. >No, it has not stopped us from distributing it. Since you commited it to >the tree, why should we not use it? By mailing it to Chris in the first >place you explicitly gave us permission to use it. Wrong. Absolutely wrong. It might be argued that I implicitly gave permission (and that was, in fact, my intent), but nowhere did I say, "Here is this code which you may now distribute." I suspect Chris will post some mail about this, to show that you are lying. Sean, I still have not received mail from you asking that I correct YOUR MISTAKE of not giving yourself credit.