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Subject: Re: [RFD] Part II: Election of a new moderator
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From: haley@scws3.harvard.edu (Elizabeth Haley)
Date: 11 Nov 93 09:25:44 GMT
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I would like to follow up Terry's comments on Jesus's request with a
few thoughts as to this "Discussion".
To quote an older movie "The problem we have here is a failure to
communicate".
The communication that is needed here is something to indicate that
you, Jesus J. Monroy, have something to contribute to this group or
the project it is a forum for.
The contributions that people make here every day vary wildly, from
posting patches or whole sources to merely asking a question that many
people might have, tipping off those doing developement that something
needs attention.
You have, for some months, suggested that you are working on code for
several things. Yet I have never seen a single line of code. You in
fact wrote to me once, saying that Julian Elischer had the code and
was beta testing it, so I should wait or ask him. The next time I
heard about it, it was from Julian, who concisely denigrated it.
Chris, on the other hand, has dedicated an inordinate amount of time
and effort to the improvement of this system, as evidenced by his
initials and names sprinkled liberally through out 386bsd and NetBSD
and FreeBSD. The same is true of Julian and Terry, as well as a host
of others.
I can only go on what I know. At this time, because you have failed to
produce any kind of code to prove that you have worked hard on 386bsd
or it's progeny, you really have no credibility to come into the group
and demand an RFD, much less demand Chris' ouster.
It is clear to me why Chris might have been delayed in posting
something to c.o.386bsd.announce: He was busy.
He was busy programming, and coordinating with the other people
working on the project, *augmenting* the work he has *given* to the
world.
There is ONE test of credibility in this group: Does the contribution
that you make to the group outweigh the bother that people have to go
through to read the message. Chris' messages have rarely if ever been
a "bother". I have seen many complaints about yours, Jesus, that their
useful content is far smaller than their size suggests.
Admittedly, you have raised some relevant points about the FDC and
underlying problems of programming for stupid hardware. But to date
you have not provided the solutions that you have promised to be
working on.
Show us some code, Jesus. Anyone can post to the other groups. Post
the code NOW. If the community at large can see your code, and compile
it, and run it, and it works better than what we have now, your place
in the "sun" of useful and cool programmers will be assurred.
Until then, you are just someone who has posted large articles and made
people mad.
Perhaps that is your way of contributing, giving people a whipping
boy, so they won't blow up at each other.
If that is your plan, let me be the first to congratulate you on your
great success, your career in social work awaits you...
--
You are what you forgot about. Revenge is a beer served warm.
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