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From: shad@iastate.edu (Hanse ShadowSpawn)
Subject: Re: Evidence to the moderators conflict-of-interest
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 05:00:07 GMT
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This discussion is getting ridiculous (sp?). (BTW: My spelling and grammar
may not be excellent, I've been up for roughly 22 hours.)
I know that many people have suggested that we just ignore this
conversation which I agree is the best course, but I couldn't help
myself.
Jesus: A comment about someone's poor grammar (from your point of
view) is not a proper response to an argument or statement by
another person. Perhaps an argumentation/debate/discussion
class could help teach you that. Try well-founded arguments,
cite facts, examples, etc., and not say (paraphrased) "Failure
to do such-and-such is proof of your conflict-of-interest."
From what I can tell from what you're saying, if the moderator
defends himself in any way shape or form it is a conflict of
interest. Have you ever walked into a court room and seen a
defendant being told he has no right to defend himself? I
highly doubt it...not in America anyway. I have heard nothing
out of Chris but reasonable explanations of what he's done and
calm, cool responses to your ranting and raving. You don't
sound like someone who's trying to argue a legitimate point,
you sound like a little baby kicking and screaming because he
wants his way, or at least like a bully saying 'give me what I
want or else'. You don't listen with any kind of open mind it
doesn't seem you even care what Chris (and since this "discussion"
has continued for so long, anybody else) has said. "Why do you
write these horrible sentences?" is not a decent response. It
is a child's way of confronting an issue or statement for which
he has no reply. I had no trouble at all with any of the messages
Chris sent (reading them that is). If you can't read them as
posted, read them as if he were speaking to you. There are some
sentences which simply aren't worth the time to translate from
the way they were meant to be spoken and the way they should be
written to get the emotions across.
Anyway, I've rambled on long enough on this issue. Chris seems to be
argueing in a professional manner. Jesus is spending too much time
bickering (bickering != argueing) and picking fights. Pay attention to
what is being said, not what is being typed in to the computer. Read,
listen, and think before responding.
Actually, as I'm fairly new to the newsgroups I'm unclear on a certain
point. Is this the place for this discussion? It actually sounds like
it's more appropriate for alt.flame. Maybe it's just me, but I read
this group to hear about *BSD apps, upgrades, etc., and not to hear ONE
PERSON (not a group, just one person) yelling to overthrough the current
moderator of another newsgroup.
-----------------------Marcus I. Ryan (shad@iastate.edu)----------------------
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