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From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr)
Subject: Re: [RFD] Election of a new Moderator
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 00:05:42 GMT
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Joe Greco (jgreco@solaria.sol.net) wrote:
: Jesus,

: I'm sure the malnourished appreciate your verbal soup.  However, as somebody
: who has been silently watching the development of 386BSD (and more recently
: the *BSD variants) for years, it is all too obvious that the real problem
: is the _apparent_ lack of interest in 386BSD.
:
	I disagree.  The lack of interest is in the dogfights that 
	persue when one makes a suggestions that is counter to
	the "system". (whatever it is).

: I am not saying that there is no interest in 386BSD.  I do talk with people
:
	Your point is well taken.

: I think that the questions most people have would be:

: 1) When is the next release of 386BSD?
:
	agreed.

: 2) Who is actively supporting 386BSD?
:
	agreed.

: 3) If the repressed masses who are running and supporting 386BSD are being
:    ignored by the moderator of c.o.3.announce, why are they not posting
:    their articles to the other newsgroups that you so gleefully crossposted
:    this schlock to?
:
	I'm afraid I missed your point.

: 4) Don't you think we're all at least a shade above buying into this?
:
	I think your agreeing with me that the moderator is 
	showing a conflict-of-interest.

: 5) It appears that you and the moderator of c.o.3.announce are not on
:    friendly terms - is this so?
:
	We were on better terms before this incident.
	Many people had told me of his conflict-of-interest,
	but I dismissed it and at times defended his actions.
	The intent to delete 386bsd 0.1 proves otherwise.
	
: 6) If so, isn't it a conflict of interest for you to be the one starting
:    this "discussion"?
:
	As I stated before, I never had any disagreements withe\
	the moderator .. till now.

	Further, not being on freindly terms with the moderator
	is not a conflict-of-interst.  I have not control or 
	responsiblity concearning the moderator.  To have a 
	conflict-of-interest I must be responsible for some
	entity concearing the moderator; I do not.


: I believe that cgd is doing a fine job.  I firmly believe that it would not
: matter one single bit if he were not.  c.o.3.announce is just one small 
: spotlight in this huge BSD arena that serves to highlight items of
: particular interest.
:
	I disagree.  As moderator of the "announce", a high signal to noise
	ratio channel, the moderator is in direct control of articles 
	propogated thru it.  As such he is a major determining factor
	in the growth of *BSD.

: I further believe that everybody's time would be better spent worrying
: about much deeper issues than who moderates one newsgroup.  
:
	I agree with you on this.

: I myself would
: like to see one unified operating system, even if it means some pain and
: suffering.  I like the idea of 386BSD.  I like a number of the extensions
: that the NetBSD folks are interested in or have done.  I like how easily
: FreeBSD installed on my 386sx.  I like the sio driver and that is the one
: and only reason I decided to (for now) go with FreeBSD.  These are ALL 
: excellent systems.  I hate to make difficult choices!
:
	I agree with the above.  I have never (and I stated this quite
	clearly) avdocate the elimination of any of the child *bsd groups

: In any case, I really don't believe for a second that this RFD is warranted
: or useful, and I think it's an embarassment to the *BSD community that
: anybody would waste their time proposing it.
:
	I disagree.  The warrented reasons are listed.  If you would like
	to review them again, I will go over them point by point with you.