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From: nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu (Nate Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.questions
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: FreeBSD vs. Linux
Date: 12 Nov 1993 00:49:59 GMT
Organization: Montana State University, Bozeman  MT
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In article <2brtgj$bbv@deep.rsoft.bc.ca>,
Curt Sampson <a09878@giant.rsoft.bc.ca> wrote:
>
>Sorry, but this is quite untrue, unless you're willing to do quite a
>lot of work. The Slackware release of Linux comes with most everything
>under the sun already installed (including elm, smail, cnews, various
>newsreaders, XFree86 2.0, ghostscript, emacs, GNU Smalltalk, and
>tcl--none of which come with the standard NetBSD [or, as far as I
>know--which isn't too far, FreeBSD] install kits). 

FYI - FreeBSD provides most of these as additional add-on packages.  Why
should you download something you have no intention of using. :-)

These are pre-compiled/pre-configured versions ready to be installed via
Jordan Hubbard's pkg install suite.

>I have heard that the networking code is NetBSD is considerably more
>stable and solid than Linux, which is why I'm tending that way right
>now.

My box has been on the network for almost a year now with NO (none!)
problems due to networking.

>Feature				Linux			386BSD
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Orientation			Similar to SysVr3.	Is BSD.
>
>Internals:
>  POSIX compliant system calls	yes			almost
>  POSIX compliant libraries	???			???

>  Shared libraries		yes			not yet

*BSD very close.  I'm testing them right now.

>Security
>  Shadow passwd			yes			???

*BSD yes.

>  Kerberos			no			yes
>
>Utilities:
>  Shells			bash, tcsh, ksh		sh, csh

*BSD yes.

>  Version 7 (eg, ed)		yes			yes
>  Berkeley (eg, more)		???			yes
>  Usenet (eg, perl)		yes			no (for NetBSD, anyway)

FreeBSD has a package ready to install.

>Text processing
>  TeX				yes (SLS)		no
>  ghostscript			yes (Slackware)		no

FreeBSD has packages for both.

>Network:
>  UUCP				Taylor			yes, (flavour?)

*BSD - Taylor

>  Basic TCP/IP			yes			yes
>  Name Services (DNS)		BIND			BIND
>  NIS				no			no?

If you mean YP, then *BSD have it.

>  Telnet, FTP, etc.		yes			yes
>  r-utils (rlogin, etc.)	yes			yes
>  NFS				slow			yes
>  SLIP				yes			yes
>  PPP				no?			yes


>
>Email:
>  Mailer			smail, sendmail		sendmail

*BSD - smail has been ported.

>Usenet news:
>  Cnews				yes			no
>  NNTP				yes			no
>  Newsreaders			rn, nn, tin		none

FreeBSD has a Cnews package I belive.  (NNTP too)  However, these really
need to be re-compiled locally if you are the network since they all have hard-coded
data in them.

Newsreaders, same thing.

>X-Windows:			yes			no

*BSD - Of course yes, it's the same package, XFree86.


>Documentation
>  man pages			yes (complete?)		yes
>  system guides		The LDP is working on	NetBSD includes some
>  				this; the ones I've	papers from Berkeley;
>  				seen a rather good,	most technical, some of
>  				esp. for beginners.	limited applicability.

Limited documentation?  I'm sorry, but that's got to be the biggest joke
I've heard in a long time.  Since BSD has been around a *LONG* time, it
has as much documentation available for it as most SysV's (more than some)

*Any* good bookstore has BSD unix documentation.

>Other Notes:
>
>Linux:
>  Linux has a somewhat easier installation program and comes with it's own
>program to make the required partitions. You may install from floppies, an
>MS-DOS hard disk partition or a CD-ROM.
>
>386BSD:
>  The 386 BSD installation requires more technical knowledge, and you've also
>got to find your own partitioning program (the MS-DOS one won't do). You may
>install from floppies or over a network (via FTP or NFS). (Can one install
>from a CD-ROM, as well?)

That has changed with both FreeBSD and NetBSD.  Try out the new install
floppies.



Nate
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