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From: jgreco@solaria.sol.net (Joe Greco)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.bugs,comp.os.386bsd.apps,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: [RFD] Election of a new Moderator
Date: 10 Nov 1993 00:14:49 -0600
Organization: Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI
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Jesus,

I'm sure the malnourished appreciate your verbal soup.  However, as somebody
who has been silently watching the development of 386BSD (and more recently
the *BSD variants) for years, it is all too obvious that the real problem
is the _apparent_ lack of interest in 386BSD.

I am not saying that there is no interest in 386BSD.  I do talk with people
who use and run 386BSD.  I am saying that there is an _apparent_ lack of
interest, especially in the newsgroups.

I think that the questions most people have would be:

1) When is the next release of 386BSD?
2) Who is actively supporting 386BSD?
3) If the repressed masses who are running and supporting 386BSD are being
   ignored by the moderator of c.o.3.announce, why are they not posting
   their articles to the other newsgroups that you so gleefully crossposted
   this schlock to?
4) Don't you think we're all at least a shade above buying into this?
5) It appears that you and the moderator of c.o.3.announce are not on
   friendly terms - is this so?
6) If so, isn't it a conflict of interest for you to be the one starting
   this "discussion"?

I believe that cgd is doing a fine job.  I firmly believe that it would not
matter one single bit if he were not.  c.o.3.announce is just one small 
spotlight in this huge BSD arena that serves to highlight items of
particular interest.

I further believe that everybody's time would be better spent worrying
about much deeper issues than who moderates one newsgroup.  I myself would
like to see one unified operating system, even if it means some pain and
suffering.  I like the idea of 386BSD.  I like a number of the extensions
that the NetBSD folks are interested in or have done.  I like how easily
FreeBSD installed on my 386sx.  I like the sio driver and that is the one
and only reason I decided to (for now) go with FreeBSD.  These are ALL 
excellent systems.  I hate to make difficult choices!

In any case, I really don't believe for a second that this RFD is warranted
or useful, and I think it's an embarassment to the *BSD community that
anybody would waste their time proposing it.

... Joe

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