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From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr)
Subject: [RFD] Election of a new Moderator
Message-ID: <jmonroyCG7w9q.6s2@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 09:13:02 GMT
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                            RFD
                    Request For Discussion
                  Election of a new moderator
 
 
    [-------------------------------------------------------]
 
        For the record:
 
                    I want to plainly state that I do not, and have
                    never avdocated the elimination of NETBSD
                    workgroup, or even that NETBSD should work in a
                    separate newsgroup.   The opposite is quite true.
 
                    If asked, I will state plainly that the work done
                    by the NETBSD group is separate, and of different
                    intent that that of 386BSD (et al.), and that the
                    quality is solely dependent on the author(s) that
                    inscribe their names to it.
 
                    The management of agate.berkeley.edu is not in
                    question.
 
    [-------------------------------------------------------]
 
            So as a matter of reference I will make the points
        concisely.   When responding please use the point number.
        Thank you.
 
 
        Point #1
        --------
                    It is all too obvious to the casual observer
                    that the moderator and the author of 386BSD are
                    not on friendly terms.   This is a source of
                    conflict.
 
        Point #2
        --------
                    Matters of fact don't deprive all the obvious.
                    The moderator is maintaining two jobs that are
                    in direct conflict-of-interest.  The job as
                    moderator of "announce" is in conflict with
                    the job(s) concerning NETBSD.
 
        Point #3
        --------
                    Further, some of the persons in the NETBSD
                    work group are also not on good terms with
                    the author.  The moderator is a member of
                    this group.  This is also a source of conflict.
 
        Point #4
        --------
                    It is also quite apparent that NETBSD was
                    started in some attempt to circumvent (or offset)
                    the work being awaited by the users of 386BSD 0.1.
                    The reason given is, and continues to be, that
                    NETBSD is a more stable environment to work in.
                    In that NETBSD is not supporting 386bsd this is
                    also a conflict.
 
        Point #5
        ---------
                    Be it that NETBSD may be the superior product,
                    (so to speak) it is plain that it derives it's roots
                    from previous versions of the BSD operating system,
                    namely 386bsd.   However, persons in the NETBSD
                    group continue to down play the works, efforts, and
                    good faith intents of those still involved with 386BSD.
                    This is also a conflict.
 
        Point #6
        --------
                    It is also obvious, from statements, that unless
                    articles for "announce" conform to a different
                    criteria they will not be posted.  That is, a criteria
                    not wholly compatible with the original intent of
                    the 386bsd newsgroup "announce".  This is also
                    a point of conflict.
 
        Point #7
        --------
                    "announce" no longer serves the purpose of informing
                    the community of activities, entities, policies  or
                    services for or about 386BSD.   It is currently
                    confined to articles to the reprehense of 386BSD.
 
                    Better yet, announcements about "things" for 386BSD
                    do not seem to appear on "announce", hence the
                    moderated group "announce" is not serving the
                    original charter.  This is also a conflict.
 
        Conclusion
        ----------
                    Be it the circumstances that are, either
                    comp.os.386bsd.announce must terminate or the
                    moderator must terminate the plainly-visible
                    conflict-in-interest that is being maintained.
 
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Jesus Monroy Jr                                          jmonroy@netcom.com
Zebra Research
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