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From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Subject: Re: BSD for Alpha ?
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 23:05:51 GMT
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In article <MIKE.93Nov3094037@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu>, mike@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Mike Haertel) writes:
> I dunno about others, but I find it moderately ironic to have lived to
> see the day when BSD kernels are considered "small" and "fast"... I remember
> being horrified at the bloat in 4.2BSD, way back when.
> 
> Just for the sake of nostalgia...
[deleted]

  Well, 2.11BSD (essentially a backport of 4.3BSD to the PDP-11) sizes out as:

spc11c.spc.edu% ls -l /*nix
-rwxr--r--  1 root        88278 Jul 23 19:05 /netnix
-rwxr--r--  1 root       145576 Jul 23 19:05 /unix
lrwxr-x---  1 root            4 Jan 14  1988 /vmunix -> unix

  This is for a kernel with pretty much the whole kitchen sink in it.

  And the following is from BSD/386 (a commercial product based on Net-2, also
with a kitchen sink configuration).

[0:3] spcuna:~> ls -l /bsd
-rwxr--r--  1 root  wheel  501631 Oct 24 13:58 /bsd*

  When I got my 4.4BSD-SPARC distribution, I was rather dismayed to see that
the kernel was 4.7MB and that was with no tape support, no VME support, etc.

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
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