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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!philapd!apdnews!spoetnix.idca.tds.philips.nl!wilko From: wilko@idca.tds.philips.nl (Wilko Bulte) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: BSD for Alpha ? Message-ID: <wilko.752329415@spoetnix.idca.tds.philips.nl> Date: 3 Nov 93 12:23:35 GMT References: <2b5qb7$oac@vega.info.isbiel.ch> <wilko.752255896@spoetnix.idca.tds.philips.nl> <VIXIE.93Nov3014358@pc.home.vix.com> Sender: news@idca.tds.philips.nl Lines: 35 vixie@pc.home.vix.com (Paul A Vixie) writes: >> Excuse me asking: OSF/1 is essentially BSD running on top of (sort of) the >> Mach kernel. Is there something special for which you want to run vanilla >> BSD? [del] >as big as the generic kernel, which is 7918392 bytes long (8 megabytes). I >believe that a BSD port to the Alpha would have a smaller, simpler, faster >kernel. quite possible, but not something I'd like to do (the porting that is). >/usr on that machine has 965418 kilobytes (965 megabytes) of software. I know >this is a demo machine and probably has every layered product known to man on >it, but geez. That's a lot of bits. Agreed. Software tends to grow fatter every release. I honestly don't know what is in all those bits, and why BSD* ran on a non split-id PDP11/34 ;-) RISC cpu's (not only Alpha's) seem to take this into extremes. >I'm betting that users of their AXP-PC systems feel a little bit cramped when >they load OSF. I'm sure if BSD were available, DEC would sell more iron since AXP/PC for OSF/1 comes with 1.05Gb disk, and that is quite necessary. It's a very nice machine for OSF/1 tho (have one here). Wilko My opinion, and mine alone.. -- | / o / / _ Wilko Bulte mail: wilko@idca.tds.philips.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| Equipment Corporation voice: +3155-432062 fax: +3155-432103 DTN: 829 2062 PO Box 245 - 7300 AE Apeldoorn - The Netherlands