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From: newsserv!stark!gene@cs.sunysb.edu (Gene Stark)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: 386BSD 0.1 must die ( was Re: FreeBSD vs NetBSD etc.)
Date: 15 Sep 93 07:36:23
Organization: Gene Stark's home system
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In-reply-to: felawka@sitka.triumf.ca's message of 15 Sep 1993 05:30:47 GMT

In article <2769a7$knq@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> felawka@sitka.triumf.ca (Larry Felawka) writes:
   In article <2756of$73g@umd5.umd.edu> mark@roissy.umd.edu (Mark Sienkiewicz) writes:
    >>>386bsd-0.1
    >>>386bsd-0.1  + random patches 
    >>>386bsd-0.1  + patchkit 
    >>
    >>Well, let's face it, with FreeBSD and NetBSD now out there I think we should
    >>forget about 0.1 and any patches that go with it. Even Bill doesn't think 0.1
    >>is in a fit state to be usable and the patchkit mechanism, while it it
    >>served us well for a while, should now be quickly forgotten about.
    >
    >The way to make this happen is to remove it from the archive sites.

   Oh, kind Sir .. please don't!  I found the 386bsd binaries very useful
   for bringing up FreeBSD when it first came out.  I used goodies like mread,
   kermit, cksum (the FreeBSD version seems to use a different algorithm),
   emacs, tcsh and so on.  Ahh, binary compatibilty is a wonderful thing!

I just wanted to add that, in upgrading my system last weekend from
386BSD 0.1 + pk 0.2.4 to FreeBSD, I decided to "recycle" my archival floppies
used for the 386BSD 0.1 distribution.  However, there were several things
I kept:
	a virgin Tiny BSD floppy
	a virgin Fixit floppy
	a copy of the 386BSD kernel source tree, with all the old
		versions of files created by the patchkit
	*all* my "etc" distribution floppies.

I decided not to recycle the "etc" floppies because there were several
things on there that I use regularly which did not find their way into
the FreeBSD tree.  In particular, kermit and mtools.  There were a couple
of other things on that distribution that are also useful.  I don't care
about the vast majority of stuff in that distribution, and if I could
collect demonstrably working versions of the things I do use (with source),
then I would gladly recycle these floppies as well.

I kept the Tiny BSD floppy and the Fixit floppy because I almost got
burned by the 0.2.4 wd driver not being able to disklabel an unlabeled
disk.  I did have to revert to the Tiny BSD floppy at one point to get
my system back into a usable state.

I kept the kernel source tree with old versions for possible comparison
with later versions, in case of questions about later changes or maybe
even copyright notices.

							- Gene Stark
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							stark@cs.sunysb.edu