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From: blymn@awadi.com.au (Brett Lymn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Why would I want LINUX?
Date: 25 Aug 93 12:53:02
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In-reply-to: niemidc@oasis.gtefsd.com's message of 19 Aug 93 20:01:01 GMT

>>>>> On 19 Aug 93 20:01:01 GMT, niemidc@oasis.gtefsd.com (David C. Niemi) said:
David> Article-I.D.: europa.250m5t$dmk
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David> In article 93Aug19115915@pdx800.jf.intel.com, mike@ichips (Mike Haertel) writes:
>In article <24vd7h$frk@horus.mch.sni.de> Martin.Kraemer@mch.sni.de (Martin Kraemer) writes:

[lotsa stuff about the slenderness of linux deleted]

David> Linux is still a very lean, fast OS compared to ANY of its competition

Have you numbers to back this?  I tried compiling jgraph and comparing
the numbers from a Linux machine.  I found that my 486/25 (running X
at the time) was faster than a 486/33 Linux machine.  Anyone in the
linux world care to try a benchmark, it does not have to be anything
particular, just something that is portable and meaningful on both
Linux and *BSD.

David> (even some versions of DOS!)

You cannot really do a comparison with Mega-Loss as it is not in the
same league.  MS-DOS is a single tasking program loader (some people
dispute is being an OS), comparing that to *any* multitasking system
running on hardware of the same power you will lose.  Basically
because the task switching will have the effect of increasing the
application time, you may win on the i/o throughput because Linux/*BSD
cache the writes to devices but you are not proving anything really.

David>  There are not many OSes that let you run
David> X-Windows in 4 MB and that can boot multi-user in 10 seconds (DOS takes
David> longer than that to boot).

Sure, X will run in 4Megs but can you do anything with it?  I think it
would depend on what you expected.  Myself, I like having a lot of
xterms open rlogin'ed to machines at work, run emacs (v19 :-), gdb and
compile without having the machine thrash.  Do not tell me I can use
other tools that have had features removed to save space, I know about
them but do not like the sacrifices made (this is MHO) to shoehorn
them.  If you are going to say X runs in 4Meg, tell us what you use
and what you do with X.

I found X in 8Meg was a bit tiresome when I started doing real
development work, running emacs, a couple of gdb's, some xterms and
compiling would make my system swap, increasing the RAM to 16Meg made
life more comfortable.  At that stage I was not running *BSD but a
commercial unix with Xfree (before it was called that).

--
Brett Lymn