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From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: NetBSD questions
In-Reply-To: ben@rex.uokhsc.edu's message of Tue, 20 Jul 1993 08: 21:42 GMT
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>386BSD 0.1 - Basic starting point of 386BSD.  Not very robust
>386BSD 0.1 + patchkit (currently at 0.2.4) - 386BSD, but it works
>386BSD 0.1.5 - Stable version of patched 386BSD
>386BSD 0.2 - "The greatest BSD ever made - promised by WJ"
>NetBSD 0.8 - offshoot of 386BSD 0.1 + 0.1.5 patchkit designed to be more

Almost.  0.1.5 is now called "FreeBSD" and represents quite a bit more
than just a "stable patched version" - it and NetBSD can more properly
be considered siblings.  The primary difference between the two groups
is that we are more conservative in what we add (we don't have, for
example, things like kernfs, devfs, LKM's, etc - we will probably have
some of these in the future, but only after they've been well shaken
out), and we're more inclined to focus on added functionality at the
utility level (more bundled packages, willingness to use GNU software,
etc).

>386BSD 0.1.5 trys to  be more stable as it will be distributed on
>CD-ROM.  An alpha release should be put up for ftp this week on
>freefall.cdrom.com.

Erm.  Well, I may have let the cat out of the bag earlier but I never
said *THAT*.  We're going to initially push it out to a few early
ALPHA testers (around 10 or so) to shake out all the obvious problems
before we push it out to the world.  That said, I'd hate to close the
door on anyone really wishing to take part in the ALPHA or BETA
releases, so send me mail if you're both interested and GENUINELY HAVE
THE TIME to seriously evaluate it!  Sorry to use caps, but lots of
folks just want to be the first on their block to see it, and after
we've gone through a lot of trouble supporting them while they get it
it up and working, they lose interest and disappear!

>versions?  We seem to need a reliable base version; an extended,
>reliable, friendly version based on the reliable base version; and a

In a nutshell, that's us.

>research version -- based loosely on the reliable version.  Right now,

And that's NetBSD.

I think the divisions are pretty clear, and sensible.

>    One thing I would like to see are more binary too releases -- some
>of the bugs fixed in the patchkits are prevent me from aquiring them (I
>was never able to download 386BSD 0.1 because the serial driver in the

We will be doing this - Rodney Grimes is working on the binary distribution
set right now.

					Jordan
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Jordan Hubbard  jkh@violet.berkeley.edu, jkh@al.org, jkh@whisker.lotus.ie