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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.apps Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!csus.edu!netcom.com!hasty From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) Subject: Re: X-windows & Diamond VLB Message-ID: <hastyCAAo4B.3ML@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <CA6rrE.5pK@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <michaelv.742745330@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> <CA9nM4.E9r@magnus1.uucp> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 05:48:10 GMT Lines: 101 In article <CA9nM4.E9r@magnus1.uucp> davidr@magnus1.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) writes: > If he doesn't mind spending some more $$$ though he can get BSD/386 >which will soon support the Viper. That's what I'm getting. BTW: Last >night I gave up on NetBSD, not that I couldn't have made it work, but >it just wouldn't be worth my time considering that I could never run X on >it. :( It really is a shame that Diamond acts that way. I would sell the little tiny diamond card. There are probably may in doz land that would probably buy. At any rate if you have an S3 805 VLB card it runs just about as fast an S3 801 and it certains the S3 805 actually runs slower. I know I have tested S3 805 cards --- not of course Diamond. Lets assume that you decide to buy BSD386. The actual purchase will nullify any financial gains. For instance, you can get a fast S3 801 Actix or Orchid F1280 which will match quite nice in performance against the Diamond S3 805. Also, once you get past 100k xstones unless you are doing CAD work or drawing thousands of lines, pixels, etc., you are not going to see the performance gain. Courtesy of Leo: leop@percy.rain.com I called Actix on their 800 number and got a few distributors. A place called WinExpress (800 859-8500) sells the GraphicsEngine 32 for $159 and the Ultra for $249. I don't expect I'll do better than that. --------- Actix Ultra S3 928 Actix GraphiEngine32 S3 801 XS3 does work with Actix's S3 801 or S3 928. I have them running on our systems. The Actix Ultra S3 928 is a loaner from Actix :-) Various VGA manufacturers are co-operating with us. The following VGA manufacturers have actually loan us S3 based cards and in certain instances given us invaluable technical assistance: Actix ELSA Number 9 Orchid For the record, Actix's technical assistance in the early stages of XS3 was invaluable to bring forth the server to you. I suggest that we support those that support us!!! You see we are not talking about just about Diamond but about supporting those who support us. I can't tell you what to buy or not to buy but if it was up to companies such as Diamond we wouldn't not be enjoying graphics workstation performance in our PD PC-unix systems. If you do decide to buy a card to use with a free X server, please let the VGA manufacturerer know. Such acts do help us a lot! Courtesy of David Greenman: To: hasty@netcom.com Subject: reward for your help From: David Greenman <davidg@implode.rain.com> Reply-To: davidg@implode.rain.com Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 07:37:13 -0700 Sender: root@implode.rain.com Status: R I spent the evening looking into the problem of not being able to compile the ibm8514 code with the optimizer. Following are the diff's to fix this problem. With -O -finline-functions -fstrength-reduce -fomit-frame-pointer and -m486, performance in some areas is dramatically improved. The pixel test in x11perf, for instance, improves by 40% to 540000 pixels/second. The xbench results with optimization look like this: (AH: Resolution 1024x768 @65mhz on a fast 486 DX2 66Mhz) TOTAL 512796 lineStones TOTAL 74884 fillStones TOTAL 53293 blitStones TOTAL 7701944 arcStones TOTAL 194218 textStones TOTAL 147973 complexStones TOTAL 118630 xStones In this benchmark, it looks like arcStones benefited the most. <stuff deleted> ------------------------- Remember we are no longer slow Amancio -- This message brought to you by the letters X and S and the number 3 Amancio Hasty | Home: (415) 495-3046 | ftp-site depository of all my work: e-mail hasty@netcom.com | sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov:/pub/386bsd/incoming