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Xref: sserve comp.os.linux:48137 comp.os.386bsd.questions:3840 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.os.386bsd.questions Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!library.ucla.edu!news.mic.ucla.edu!unixg.ubc.ca!acs.ucalgary.ca!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!xenlink!fsa.ca!deraadt From: deraadt@fsa.ca (Theo de Raadt) Subject: Re: SUMMARY: 486DX2/66 for Unix conclusions (fairly long) In-Reply-To: pcg@aber.ac.uk's message of Tue, 13 Jul 1993 20: 19:59 GMT Message-ID: <DERAADT.93Jul14071651@newt.fsa.ca> Followup-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.386bsd.questions Sender: news@fsa.ca Nntp-Posting-Host: newt.fsa.ca Organization: little lizard city References: <21k903$3q4@GRAPEVINE.LCS.MIT.EDU> <PCG.93Jul12003233@decb.aber.ac.uk> <21qg8k$ra3@GRAPEVINE.LCS.MIT.EDU> <PCG.93Jul13212000@decb.aber.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 14:16:51 GMT Lines: 34 In article <PCG.93Jul13212000@decb.aber.ac.uk> pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) writes: > Chris> As for architectural elegance, my impression is that this is not > Chris> something that Linus was initially shooting for---but perhaps > Chris> something that will grow as, [ ... ] By contrast, 386BSD seems to > Chris> have gone the opposite direction, with lots of grim > Chris> architecture-dependent hacks in it, and NetBSD trying to pull > Chris> back the other way. I can't resist. 386BSD had lots of krufty architecture-dependent hacks in it. To those who hold portability very highly, it was an ugly mess. Yetch. This is exactly what NetBSD has already done in the current source tree. It's fairly clear that the architecture-dependent hacks have been pulled out now, and, I might even say we're cleaner in that respect than 4.3reno was. I will side step the issue of giving evidence for this, because I might spoil someone's release announcement :-) :-) > Well, Linux is a much newer technolopgy than BSD; I'd say that Linux is > currently at about the BSD4.1c level, i.e. circa 1982 in the BSD > evolution. I regard 386BSD as a temporary hack waiting for the much > dreamt-of release of BSD4.4-Lite. As such the Jolitz team is doing a Hmm. You might be alone with that viewpoint.. > very nice work; most of it, I reckon, will be folded back into BSD4.4, > especially drivers and the like. I think you might be even MORE alone with that viewpoint . . . -- This space not left unintentionally unblank. deraadt@fsa.ca