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From: torek@horse.ee.lbl.gov (Chris Torek)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Funding 4.4BSD Development
Date: 2 Jul 1992 12:12:05 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley
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Message-ID: <24318@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
References: <79@ampr.ab.ca> <1992Jun26.021947.28286@gateway.novell.com> <1992Jun28.204256.14620@uunet.uu.net> <1992Jul1.232031.15719@gateway.novell.com>
Reply-To: torek@horse.ee.lbl.gov (Chris Torek)
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(I see most of this as irrelevant---some of the postings are merely
idle speculation, some merely flamage, some merely points of view---but
I want to inject one fact into the discussion anyway.)

In article <1992Jul1.232031.15719@gateway.novell.com>
terry@npd.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert) writes:
>I think the final answer must come from CSRG; we will certainly be impacted
>by whomever they "will" BSD to, if anyone.

I find this statement most puzzling.

The 4.3BSD net.2 release tape is copyright (by the UC Regents), as will
be 4.4-alpha and whatever may come after.  But the copyright says that
you (yes YOU personally) may do almost anything you want with the
code.  As Keith Bostic once put it, ``You can sell it, you can give it
away, you can wrap fish in it.''  The only real constraint is that,
whatever you do, you have to acknowledge Berkeley, you you must obtain
the Regents' approval to use the name ``Berkeley'' in advertising.

Thus, the question as to whom will ``inherit'' BSD is moot.  EVERYONE
has already inherited it.  BSDI in particular decided to add to it and
sell the ``added value'' as a package.  If you do not like that, you
can go off on your own and add your own value and sell it, for more or
fewer dollars, with whatever licensing terms you prefer.  You can even
add to it and then give it away, as Bill Jolitz is doing.  The BSDI
folks have been careful not to use ``side channels'' to siphon off CSRG
code before it was generally available.  (Note that my configuration
code got to BSDI via LBL, not Berkeley, in exchange for stuff from BSDI
for use at LBL.  In fact, the kernels at CSRG do not use this code at
all, though I would like to fix that [in my Copious Spare Time no doubt
:-) ].)

I do not believe that, even if CSRG were to anoint someone with the
Holy Oil of Berkeley, it would help much (if at all) in making that
group the New Leadership.  Leadership is not something you hand off
like a torch in a relay race.  To mix up the metaphor a bit, the front
runner is the one who *stays* out in front.

In short, if you want BSD to develop in some direction: well, the code
is out there for the taking---go forth and develop!  The real problem
is getting everyone else to take you seriously.  The only way to do
that is to *be* serious about it, get some work done, and get it out
there.  That is how BSD came about in the first place.

>Whatever happens, it is certainly the passing of an era.

Well, that is true enough.
-- 
In-Real-Life: Chris Torek, Lawrence Berkeley Lab CSE/EE (+1 510 486 5427)
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