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From: bostic@hermes.Berkeley.EDU (Keith Bostic)
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Subject: Re: Funding 4.4BSD Development
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Date: 29 Jun 92 17:50:21 GMT
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Let me talk about the who/what/where of NET/2, so that we don't start
more rumors about who did what to whom in a vicious, but evil plot N
years ago.

Also, my memory is as bad as most people's and worse than some, and I'm
not going to paw through email from four years ago until the subpoena's
in my hands.  So, these are my recollections, worth what you're paying
for them, and they're probably not too far wrong.

The freely redistributable pieces of 4.3BSD-Reno were placed on-line by
UUNET.  I don't remember when or where the deal got made, but Rick Adams
and John Gilmore and I, and I'm sure some other people, talked it over,
thought it was a good idea and did it.  Since there wasn't a freely
redistributable release available from the University at the time, there's
no issue as to when UUNET made it available.

The NET/1 release was made in November of 1988, and was immediately placed
online by UUNET.

The Net/2 release was made in July of 1991.  UUNET did not immediately
place it online, and there are two reasons for the delay.

First, since UUNET is reachable from non-domestic sites, Rick had to wait
until the GTDA license for the NET/2 release was approved.  (Don't ask me
about all the ramifications of various licenses, it's amazingly complex.
Suffice it to say that the GTDA license made NET/2 freely redistributable
outside of the US.)  I got the GTDA license in November of 1991, so there's
no way that Rick should have placed NET/2 online before then.

Second, the CSRG explicitly asked Rick to not place NET/2 online or include
it in the UUNET source distributions for an unspecified time so that we
could make some money from the release.  Rick agreed to this request.   Once
other organizations (who refused our request to not make NET/2 part of their
distributions for a few months) started making NET/2 available, Rick quite
reasonably wanted to do so as well, and we agreed.

--keith