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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!convex!convex!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!aw2t+ From: "Alex R.N. Wetmore" <aw2t+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.development Subject: Re: Need your opinion (TTYDEF 8-bit clean state) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1993 10:29:37 -0400 Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 22 Message-ID: <Yg6nbF200WB5I2L34r@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: po4.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <JKH.93Jun12170918@whisker.lotus.ie> Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.386bsd.development: 12-Jun-93 Re: Need your opinion (TTYD.. by Jordan K. Hubbard@whiske > There's another reasons for us Americans to want an 8 bit clesn > driver. Ever tried using your meta key in bash? Nice, ain't it? Now > try running vi or more and see what happened to your nice meta key. > Having to stty cs8 all the time is more pain than it's worth. This > kind of behaviour on suns as well has led me to sadly give up on the > idea of ever having a meta key outside of emacs, and that's a real > shame. > > I support this - DEC has done much the same with their tty drivers in > Ultrix - it comes up in 8 bit, and it stays that way until you decide > otherwise. I have a hack that redefines alt-key to be esc-key, which is what meta becomes on most keyboards that don't support a direct meta key anyway. If anyone wants the diffs (they add a few other things to pccons as well, like support for changing the vga palette colors with esc sequences), I could post them I guess... alex