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From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Subject: Re: Need your opinion (TTYDEF 8-bit clean state)
In-Reply-To: joerg@sax.sax.de's message of 11 Jun 1993 21: 18:18 +0200
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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1993 17:09:18 GMT
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>regarding the new termios interface. Btw., does you American folks
>*really* need 7-bit mode? Even the simplest uucp connection requires

There's another reasons for us Americans to want an 8 bit clesn
driver.  Ever tried using your meta key in bash?  Nice, ain't it?  Now
try running vi or more and see what happened to your nice meta key.
Having to stty cs8 all the time is more pain than it's worth.  This
kind of behaviour on suns as well has led me to sadly give up on the
idea of ever having a meta key outside of emacs, and that's a real
shame.

I support this - DEC has done much the same with their tty drivers in
Ultrix - it comes up in 8 bit, and it stays that way until you decide
otherwise.

					Jordan

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Jordan Hubbard                                            jkh@whisker.lotus.ie