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From: gil@netcom.com (Gilbert Nardo)
Subject: Re: Which is better ?
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Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 23:15:48 GMT
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	First, I believe all of the unix-like open source code
development efforts are excellent because they foster innovation
and better use of current technology.  Having said that, I would
like to clarify some of the (misinformed) gripes that were leveled
at SYS V-like systems, specifically at Linux.

ats@bsd386.first.gmd.de (Andreas Schulz) writes:
> In article <1u0u1h$jt6@umcc.umcc.umich.edu> lcd@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (Leon Dent) writes:
> Why i want a BSD lookalike system over a system V lookalike system:
> 1) I want long filenames, no fourteen character limit.
	Linux comes with file systems such as xiafs and ext2fs, which
can handle filenames > 14 chars.

> 2) I want symlinks, if i have space problems on one partition, i use
> a symlink and put it into another partition. No please install
> the whole system new, if you didn't know your space requirements
> first.
	Linux has symlinks.

> 3) I want the filename completion in the C shell. If i type some
> characters in a name and than press escape, it should beep:-).
	There are several shells (ported to Linux) that have added
useful extentions to both the standard C and Bourne shells. For example,
bash (Bourne Again SHell) allows entering and editing history lines
via emacs or vi key sequences (in addition to the bang ! char).

> 4) I want functional network code, i had not seen a crash
> from the network code. And i use the network heavily on this
> machine.
	Linux is still catching up here. 0.99pl10 added more
net-2 stuff. It still needs to be fully tested.

> 5) And yes, the familiarity with the other BSD systems is nice,
> i can compile more things from the NET on the 386bsd box than
> on the new SOLARIS2.1 system on the SUN.
	GNU/X ports to Linux are relatively easier than other OS's (since
the development effort uses these very same tools to build the system).

> I have learned UNIX from Version 7, over System III and System V
> Releases 1.0, 2.0, 2.1, 3.0 and SUNOS 3.3 ... 5.1. At one time
> i had ported kernel parts and utilities on System V, and it
> was nice to get the first SUN's and have a BSD system. If you
> learned it, you miss it.
> I don't know, how LINUX is, but i heard it is more the System
> V direction, than the BSD direction, and thats the reason,
> i had not tried it yet.
	I could not and would not try to sway you away from BSD, but
at least I hope the information above lessens the fear for you
about Linux.
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