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From: deraadt@fsa.ca (Theo de Raadt)
Subject: Re: NetBSD install1.fs1 chokes
In-Reply-To: kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de's message of 30 Apr 1993 16: 56:20 GMT
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Date: Sun, 2 May 1993 00:30:14 GMT
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In article <1rrlnk$6dp@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph Kukulies) writes:
> So far so good. I found that the NetBSD does use the wdc/fdc patch. Exactly
> this patch has caused big trouble with running two drives in the past.
>
> I got my second IDE drive trashed several times. What was this patch good for?
> Didn't 0.1 provide for two drives? This patch allows for two or more fdc/wdc
> controllers, but who has 4 IDE drives (two controllers) or two floppy controllers?

1. The floppy and hard drive stuff is barsoom. It is not the multiple drive
   patch. This driver works very well. I run two drives on it, and a friend
   here runs 4 drives on 2 controllers. No problems.

2. If you run into a show stopper like this, please send mail to the netbsd
   mailing addresses.

> I suspect that there is still something broken with the IDE drive handling
> or with partition setup.

I doubt this, but am silling to be proven wrong.. [Could someone who understands
the translation issues contact Christoph?]

> Another remark about the NetBSD installation procedure: Why is the user asked so
> much about disk partitioning? This is distracting new users and is not good
> advertising for EZ setup.

1. At least it's more flexible than the 386BSD install.
2. It's being worked on.
3. Would you rather have an assuming program that screws up on someone's machine,
   or a program that requires you to read and comprehend instructions?

> But these cylinder boundary calculations are really anachronisms. Leave that
> to a computer program !!!!!!!

The install program does not know about the DOS partition information.

> The next problem I had was that the wd8003 was found but ftp after doing a 
> ifconfig by hand did not work. I'm just mentioning that - the cause may be
> elsewhere - but I once installed  easily on that machine using dist-wd800.fs
> and now things are not a bit easier. It would be very easy
> to add a question for the Internet address and broadcast address/netmask
> into the install script and issue an ifconfig command automatically in the
> install script.

Really people, very little is different between the patchkit and 0.8. You
probably tried to ftp when you needed a route.
 <tdr.
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