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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.development Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!convex!convex!darwin.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!easix!knobel!andreas From: andreas@knobel.GUN.de (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: What happened to these projects ? References: <1r17cqINNqgi@fstgds01.tu-graz.ac.at> <1993Apr21.202838.7929@fcom.cc.utah.edu> <1r855hINN56d@gap.caltech.edu> <hastyC5yJIs.Lqw@netcom.com> Organization: Andreas Klemm, D-4040 Neuss 21 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 93 00:18:22 GMT Message-ID: <1993Apr26.001822.7537@knobel.GUN.de> Lines: 76 In <hastyC5yJIs.Lqw@netcom.com> hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) writes: |In article <1r855hINN56d@gap.caltech.edu> glt@cco.caltech.edu (Greg Tanaka) writes: |>terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes: |> |>>In article <1r17cqINNqgi@fstgds01.tu-graz.ac.at> chmr@edvz.tu-graz.ac.at (Christoph Robitschko) writes: |Part of the success of Linux is due to the participants actively spreading the |word that Linux is available. And they can say ... "Oh it's so nice and easy to get the newest versions on floppy, because we have someone who makes the SLS floppy distribution." "And you don't need to put all sources on disk, no. Because you get binaries on that patch level. And the newest gnu c compiler, and so on" I think we have to think about new distribution methods. Better (newer) binary distributions. In my company I prepared 386bsd for downloading on our sun. I told all the people in the support I have 386bsd running and it's ok. But they told my: linux is better because it's smaller. we cannot patch the sources on our disk and compile the whole bunch .... and so on. We need tricky and up to date binary floppies. We need the newest compiler. Why is gcc 2.3.3 not already a tight part of 386bsd ? I compile 386bsd's kernel since months with gcc 2.3.3 without problems. Why are Frank van der Lindens's patches not already part of 386bsd's patchkit. Linux already uses gcc-2.x ! This patch was: From: vdlinden@fwi.uva.nl (Frank van der Linden) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: gcc 2.x and kernel building Message-ID: <1992Dec28.213027.18853@fwi.uva.nl> Date: 28 Dec 92 21:30:27 GMT Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam Works pretty well !!! |For instance, about 2 months ago, I think it was |in Unix Review it had a nice article about Linux and a step-by-step User |Friendly installation guide. A little while ago, in comp.windows.x, I was |totally out numbered by the Linux group. The subject was how to provide |X services on a PC. About 5 Linux users, responded to the topic. The |result was that we looked very impressive against the competition: |commercial Unix, X-terminals, DVX, etc.. One Moment please. Here in Germany the UNIX magazin wrote about the 386bsd kernel before linux was in discussion..... |We need 386bsd participants to write or tell other people about their |work and 386bsd. Hopefully, this will help to attract individuals that |are willing to contribute. No problem I do so. But now there are the people of NetBSD and the 386BSD cummunity falls in pieces. I don't know what I should tell the people. Should they install NetBSD from which I know that it will not melt with 386BSD 0.2 ????? TO BAD THE STORY WITH NetBSD. I don't agree with those programmers. They should have improved 386bsd 0.1's distribution, patchkit, installation process, BUT NOT CREATING A NEW UNIX. STUPID in my eyes. Hope that many users feel like I ! Andreas -- ////// Andreas Klemm \\\\\\ /////// andreas@knobel.GUN.de \\\\\\\ private : +49 2137 12609 D-4040 Neuss 21 (Norf), Germany at work : +49 2173 3964 161 Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Telefax : +49 2173 3964 222 Abteilung Unix Support, D-4019 Monheim