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From: nate@cs.montana.edu (Nate Williams)
Subject: Re: Summary of Linux vs. 386BSD vs. Commercial Unixes
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HJ - Linux will use whatever better in 386bsd. But 386bsd has to
HJ - start from scratch, unless you do it yourself. For example,
HJ - 387 emulation and C library.

Nate - And then Linux and the GNU folks will take what 386BSD has done and
Nate - restrict it.  Now, isn't that nice....... taking my work and restricting
Nate - it.  I always thought that was awful kind of them. (NOT!)
Nate - 
Nate - Who really likes GNU utilities, but hates the way alot of folks take
Nate - other peoples programs and code, fix them and then don't make the
Nate - changes 'completely redistributable;

HJ - 
HJ - If everybody did that, the GNU copyright would not be a problem. Is
HJ - your purpose to let someone make "completely non-redistributable"
HJ - stuff? Am I missing something?

No, my purpose is to make 386BSD completely re-distrubutable, with NO
strings attached.  That means Sun, DEC, HP, Ren and Stimpy, or whoever
can take this code and sell a binary copy of it.  The GPL does not allow
this.

HJ - You have gave us freedom (Thanks). We have made our decision and you
HJ - can get our code for free with some reasonable conditions. Why do you
HJ - complain? That is what you ask for. Please blame it on yourself. If
HJ - someone did something to your code and didn't tell your about that
HJ - or wanted to charge you $$$$ or didn't want you to give it away to
HJ - others, would you complain?

No, I would not complain.  I believe the work should be in the same vein
as it was distributed.  COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY free.  Not copylefted,
which places  restrictions on its distribution.

The original BSD copyright has been this way, but unfortunately a group of
people take the code, fix the code, and then place restrictions on it.


Nate

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